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A PC-User's Purchase "Guide" (it's not...just the ramblings of an idiot) to High Quality Audio on your system.
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Hello friends, today I'd like to talk about an aspect of our glorious systems that get overlooked a lot: our audio experience on our battlestations. Thanks to paoper
for formatting. Again disclaimer that I am an idiot, so take this post with a grain of salt. Better info and more accurate info from people way more knowledgeable than I am is readily available from /audiophile /budgetaudiophile
, this is just a start-up guide for the beginner.
NOTE: The monster I gave birth to has become too long. I felt that instead of a short list of things to order, I needed to give context as high fidelity is really all about what sound is like in your
experience. Also a fun read if you are interested. Feel free to skip to the actual list (ctrl+f active speakers, passive speakers, headphones, subwoofer, amplifier)!
I have limited the price range of the products, because this is after all just food for thought and not even a proper guide; real audio purchases will require elbow-grease and research from your end to see if the product's sound signature will match your preferences in music and sound. If your product is not here, do not worry. I have put in products that I have had experience with and those that were recommended by multiple reviewers I hold in high regard (with the exception of a 2.1 system you will see later), and I had to consider the endless number of headphones/speakers vs the ones that are worth your hard-earned cash (and products vs how they compare to my current setup which includes both "high-end" and budget options).
I've been building systems for myself and others since I randomly took a buildapc course in middle school (currently 28) and enjoy music very much (I grew up on linkin park, dre, biggie smalls, 3 6 mafia, tupac, ac/dc, red hot chilli peppers am fond of electro and dubstep and various genres of music). I have 2 decades of experience playing saxophone, clarinet, and the electric guitar, and have performed in jazz bands, rock bands, and an orchestra. My ear is highly trained from raw musical performance and not just listening to speakers from home, as well as having the nuance to differentiate between good speakers. I have owned many many forms of audio gear (instruments, speakers, headphones, studio monitors).
So wtf is this?
So occasionally while answering questions on this subreddit (mainly on why new builder's systems aren't posting, or what components they should get, or just mourning with fellow builders for systems that have passed on as well as celebrating the birth of new systems and fellow pc builders who take their rite of passage of building their own system with their own two hands) I would come across the occasional "what speakers/headphones are best under $xx" and with the state of pc products being "gaming rgb ultimate series XLR" or w/e, it's hard to discern what audio products are actually worth your money. Note that if you are using just "good enough" cheap speakers, any of the speakers/headphones on this list will blow your mind away. Get ready to enter a new world of audio.
Why should I bother getting better speakers/headphones?
I have owned $20 logitech speakers, I currently own $1500 speakers. I have owned varying levels of headphones. The first half-decent (to my standards) speakers I had was a hand me down stereo set from an uncle. This thing was massive, but this thing was good. It's difficult to explain to you the sensation of music enveloping you with great speakers. Speakers are meant to reproduce sound, as in the sound of the instruments in the song. So great speakers and headphones can literally make you FEEL the music like at a rave or a concert or performance in the comfort of your home. This is why Home Theaters were so popular in the 80s/90s.
Upgrading will GREATLY enhance your music, netflix and gaming experience. In fact with passive bookshelf speakers, you can not only use them for your desktop setup, but also chuck them together with a tv and you've got a fine starter home theater system in your hands. You can even upgrade down the line incrementally, one speaker at a time, to a 2.1, 3.1, 5.1, 5.2, 7.2 Dolby Atmos Home Theater Setup where your movies make you feel like your in SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
I currently live in a small apartment with my TV right next to my battlestation, and when i want to sit down on my couch and watch TV, I simply move 1 speaker from my desk to next to my TV, turn my AVR on and I have an easy 5.1 home theater in my tiny apartment. Move the speaker, revert back to 2.1 (or 5.1 if i choose to but i dont because of badspeaker placement when I'm sitting at my desk) amazingness at my battlestation. Consider this an investment into massively improving your experience
of playing video games, watching netflix, or listening to music. You think those 4k graphics and ULTRAWIDE monitor is giving you more immersion in your game? Shit...having great speakers or headphones can make you feel like you're IN NORMANDY BEACH DURING THE FUCKING LANDINGS
General considerations (or feel free to just skip ahead to the list)
Now, I totally understand using simple logitech speakers due to budget/space/easy-access from best buy or not knowing about the wider audio world. So I am here today to give you a perspective on what audio components are TRULY worth your hard-earned cash. I have owned $20 logitech speakers in college, I have owned guitar amps as well as studio monitors/other speakers ranging from $100-$1500. Do know that all of this information is readily available in /BudgetAudiophile /audiophile
. I am merely condensing all of it into a single list, and attempt to sort of explain it to the pc builders, or just an idiot rambling.
If you would like more information on specific speakers, I would check out reviewers on youtube like zerofidelity, steve guttenberg, nextbigthing (nbt) studios, and thomas and stereo. For headphones, metal751, innerfidelity, Ishca's written reviews, DMS.
Z reviews is okay and he reviews everything from amps and dacs to speakers and headphones, but he gives 90% of his products good reviews, and has affiliate links to every single product he reviews....so you see where my dislike of him as a reviewer comes from. He is still an expert audiophile
, he just chooses to not use his knowledge and ramble on in his videos, plus the shilling. Great place to start for audiophiles, as he is still a professional. I just think many move on to other reviewers.
Also with speakers, speaker placement is extremely important. Get those speakers off your desk and the woofers/tweeters to your ear level NO MATTER THE COST. Stack boxes/books, buy speaker stands/isolation pads from amazon, at worst buy yoga blocks from amazon. Put your speakers on them, get ready for even better audio.
General rule of thumb: dont buy HiFi at msrp. There are ALWAYS deals on speakers/headphones to take advantage of at any given time (massdrop for headphones, parts-express, accessories4less, crutchfield, adorama, Sweetwater, guitar center, etc). Speakers will get cheaper over time as manufacturers have to make room for new products/refreshes of the same models just as with headphones. If theres a particular headphone model you want, check to see if massdrop has it (website where users of the website decide what niche products the website will mass order, and both the website and you the users get reduced pricing).
Now this list is just simple guide. Obviously for $150 budget, theres probably like 10 different speakers to choose from. You will catch me repeat this many many times but sound is subjective, I don't know what genres of music you enjoy and what sound signatures in headphones/speakers you would prefer (warm sounds? bright? aggressively forward? laid back sound signature? importance of clarity vs bass?) So consider this list with a grain of salt, as this is after all, the ramblings of an idiot on reddit.
So I will be splitting this list into 4 categories:
- active speakers,
- passive speakers,
And before I start, bass depth and low end does not fucking equal bad boomy bass. I absolutely detest low quality boomy bass like in Beats headphones and general "gaming speakers" or w/e. Also the budetaudiophile starter package is the dayton audio b652 + mini amp combo from parts-express. All the speakers that were considered were basically compared to the b652 before making it on here (and whether they justified the price bump over the b652)
Active vs. Passive (crude explanation)
So when a speaker plays music from your pc, the audio is processed by the audio card on your motherboard, which is then sent to the amplifier where the signal is amplified, and then finally is sent to be played on your speakers. Active speakers like logitech speakers that have a power cable running from the speakers directly to the wall socket have built-in amplifiers to power the speakers, whereas passive speakers require a separate amplifier to amplify the audio signal and feed the speakers power. Active vs passive, no real difference as both types of speakers will have good audio quality depending on how they are made and which ones you buy, but in the ultra budget section of speakers (under $300) actives tend to be cheaper than their passive counter parts. This is due to the manufacturer cutting corners elsewhere.
Take for instance the Micca MB42X passive speakers($90) which also have a brother, the Micca PB42X ($120) powered speakers. Same exact speaker, but built in amp vs the amp you buy. Obviously the mb42x will sound marginally better purely from the virtue that the amplifier is not inside the goddamn box. But the mb42x + amp + speaker wire will probably cost you anywhere from basic $130 to $200 with difference in amplifier and whether you use bare speaker wire or banana plugs/cables. Cabling aesthetics and management will be greatly affected, with sound quality affected to a lesser degree, or more (but at what cost?). Amp choice to be explained later.
Now generally speakers should be recommended based on your music/audio preferences and tastes as speakers and in a larger part, speaker brands will have their own unique sound signatures that some will love and others will hate as sound is such a subjective experience. But since this is meant to cater to a wide audience, note that my list is not the ALL inclusive, and again is only the ramblings of an idiot.
If you want to add bluetooth capabilities to your wires active or passive speakers, simply buy the esinkin W29 wireless bluetooth module, plug your speakers in, connect to your bluetooth on pc/phone/w/e, enjoy.
Simply connect to your PC or TV via 3.5mm (or the occasional usb).
Note: you may experience a hissing with active speakers that may annoy you to no end even up to the $400 mark. This is a result of the amplifier being built in to the speaker in close proximity, as well as sometimes the manufacturer cutting corners elsewhere. Passive speakers do not have this unless you buy a really shitty amp. Note that while bigger woofer size does not necessarily indicate better quality/bass, this does more often than not seem to be the case as manufacturers put bigger woofers on the higher stepup model.
Note that while I have included 2.1 systems here, I would always recommend you get good bookshelves first, save up money and buy a subwoofer separate.
- Cyber Acoustics CA-3602FFP 2.1 $40. This is the I'm broke af but I need speakers route. 2.1 setup for 40 bucks. We do not have the luxury of options here. Enough said. Amazon
- Okay, for under $100 for good quality active speakers, there really is no other choice here besides Edifier speakers on amazon. In fact, their entire lineup is pretty solid all around ranging from the 980T for $70 to the S350DB which is a 2.1 system with 2 bookshelves and a sub for $300. Differences in the models are basically bigger woofers/tweeters as you go up in price, resulting in better bass performance and clarity (again crude explanation). If you don't want to research much and want simplicity, any of the edifiers are the way to go, with the 1700BT being the goto 2.0, or the 1850db which as a sub-out so you can add in a subwoofer into your setup later.
- Micca PB42X: $120- The active version of the popular MB42X passive speakers. Very good performance for price.
- Mackie CR3/4 $90/$140- Now normally I don't recommend these, but they are okay/meh speakers and have that razer aesthetic going on, and aesthetics are big part of speaker choice, so if you like the black/green color scheme, I guess these are passable.
- Klipsch Pro Media 2.1: $150- the only 2.1 system I'd recommend under $200. The thing about adding in a subwoofer to a 2.1 system under $200 means they have to cut corners elsewhere. This is the main difference of 2.1 systems vs bookshelves. While the subwoofer will allow your music to hit the lower notes in frequency resulting in deeper and more bass, this will usually come at a cost of audio quality in the mid and upper ranges in the music. If you are a BASSHEAD then yeah you probably want a subwoofer, though bookshelves under $200 also have decent bass. Note, ALWAYS BETTER TO BUY BOOKSHELVES AND SUBWOOFER SEPARATELY, but this will be pricier. Klipsch Website Direct or amazon.
- Fluance ai40/ai60: $200/$300- nice looking speakers that come in white and walnut and black that also have good clarity and quality. Their bass is surprisingly okay as they are rated to go a little bit below in the lower frequencies than speakers in similar price. I have listened to these before shortly for 2 hours, and would recommend. IIRC the ai60 has a subwoofer out. Mind the size of the 60s, quite big. Fluance direct or amazon.
- Kanto YU4: $270 Direct competitor to fluance ai series. Comes in white as well.
- Audioengine A2+/A5+ :$270/$400. I have no experience with this lineup, but lots of love/hate dynamic with this brand over on budgetaudiophile. Good and bad thing.
- JBL 305P: $300 - maybe the endgame speakers of this list. These are very famous and respected studio monitors that music artists and producers use often. They are sold $150 per speaker, and you will need to get 2. Hooking them up requires separate cables, as these are standalone speakers with it's own volume control on each speaker. Simplest way is to buy a 3.5mm to dual TS Cable. Set both speakers to same physical volume level via knob, and adjust volume using windows settings (having a volume knob on your keyboard helps immensely here). Or buy a separate in line volume control from amazon ($20 bucks or under) and connect via 3.5mm to rca. Being studio monitors, these are meant to reproduce sound neutrally (they will have no external flavoring like how Beats adds muddy boomy bass to its headphones to use as a bad example) and may not sound alive or bright or to your tastes. They can be demo-ed/tested out at guitar center if you have access to one in this pandemic.
- Logitech G560 RGB Gaming Speakers: $200 (yes, you read that right): Okay, now normally I'd be crucified for recommending a logitech speaker in the other audio forums. But I have used these speakers briefly for about 3 months when I got them cheap from a friend. The sound quality of these satellite speakers are....surprisingly not bad? Might I dare to say that these are even....decent for it's price? Now these are $200 speakers for a 2.1 system. This means that it's either this or Klipsch 2.1. Honestly my vote here goes to the logitechs. I owned the Klipsch promedia 2.1 for about half a year. I can definitely say I prefer the clarity of the logitechs vs the boomy bass of the Klipsch. The subwoofer on the 560 does NOT have its own control knob, so you would need to adjust bass settings through logitech eq. Note, these speakers will not sound good out of the box. You will need to go into the eq settings via logitech software, and change the settings to match your tastes. Honestly the fact that you have to tweak the eq through shitty logitech software to make these sound good is pretty bullshit. Note that I am not recommending the z623/625. Don't get those. I used these in college in my apt in brooklyn, and while boomy bass, I'd definitely go with the B652 + mini amp, klipsch 2.1, or the g560 over the z623/625 FOR SURE.
- Second-hand market: okay, let's say you are determined to get quality speakers but you do not have the budget. Look around on the second hand market for stuff from KRK, Emotiva, Ascend, HSU. Make sure to demo them out for as long as you can until the seller gets pissed (please don't), so that you can test to see if you like the sound.
These speakers will require you to buy a separate amplifier, as well as separate cables. But the passive route allows you to have a modular audio system that allows you to upgrade parts as you go along in your life (yes I said life for once you dip your toes into high fidelity, you will get hooked onto a great lifelong journey searching for the perfect setup), or even just add parts in altogether (like having a miniamp on your desk for your passive speakers, having a separate dac or bluetooth module for your speakers so you can connect the passive speakers via USB or bluetooth wirelessly, stacked on top of a headphone dac/amp combo, stacked on top of a preamp, etc). Amplifier list to follow later.
Passive speaker specs to pay attention to will be their impedance (measured in ohms) and their sensitivity (measured in xx db/1w/1m). Speaker ratings in wattage are measurements of how much power can be driven to them (higher watts, higher volume...once again crude explanation). A 20 watt x 2 channel amp (measured in 4 ohms) is enough to power 4 and 6 ohm speakers rated at 100 watts to moderate/decently loud listening levels on your desktop. Now the sensitivity thing. A speaker with a rating of 85db/1m/1w means it will produce 85 decibels of noise at 1 meter with 1 watt of power. Now this not linear....to make the same speaker go up to 90 decibels may require 10 or 15 watts of power depending on other variables. Depending on how loudly you play your music and what impedance/sensitivity your speakers have will result in your choice of amplifiers. More on this later.
The thing about passive bookshelf speakers are that you can use them in your desktop setup, AND with your TV as a legitimate starter 2.1 home theater setup (which you can upgrade to 3.1, and then 5.1/5.2, just buy a used receiver from craigslist for 50 bucks, ez)
What you will need for passive setup:
Note that passive speakers and amp require you to purchase speaker wire
separately (fairly cheap) and strip them (youtube video will guide you, very easy). Or if you like clean cable management and easy setups, banana plug cables
from amazon will set you straight, and while these banana plugs and cable are nice and PURELY OPTIONAL, they will add up in cost as your buy more of them for frankenstein 2.1 cabling. Also a 3.5mm to rca cable
will be required. The connection will be your pc -> 3.5mm->rca->amp->speaker wire-> speaker wire->speaker. (replace speaker wire with banana plug if going that route). Subwoofer connection will be explained in subwoofer section.
- Dayton audio b652+ mini amp combo on parts-express for $60/70. Two combos, two separate mini amps, one from lepai (china) and one from dayton. Same shit. It LITERALLY does not get better than this for under $100, maybe even $150. CHIEF THIS IS IT, i cannot stress this enough. This is the budgetaudiophile 101 starter pack. I'd recommend these over the active Mackies, Edifiers (up to the 1700), and any and all logitech/creative pebble/cyber w/e EVERYTHING systems (except for the g560). These are very BIG speakers and hence will deliver good sound and good bass due to its big woofers. If you have less than $100 to spend on the ENTIRE audio setup, go get these and speaker wire/banana plugs no questions asked. gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
- Dayton Audio B652 AIR $70- The difference between the AIR and the normal 652 is in the tweeter. The AIR tweeter on this speaker costs as much as the entire b652 speaker. This tweeter upgrade gives even more clarity and quality in the treble range (middle upper sound frequency). The next best thing for under $100, though doesn't come with the mini amp combo.
- Sony SSCS5 Bookshelf Speakers. $150 msrp, $120 on amazon/bestbuy until recently, and sometimes goes on sale for $75. These are 3 way speakers with woofer, tweeter and supertweeter. The strength of these speakers lie in its unmatched clarity in the highs and upper mids. I still have these in my collection, and VERY WORTH though my opinion of these is skewed as I got them for $75/pair. If you appreciate bass, you will need to add a subwoofer with these (or generally any speaker below $500....some people would say you cant listen to music on bookshelves without subwoofer) as they sound a bit thin compare to the b652s (a bit less bass because smaller woofer) but better sound quality (though this is just my SUBJECTIVE thought after listening to the cs5s and b652s). These have 5 in woofers and have okayish small form factor.
- Micca MB42X $90- the passive version of the powered PB42X in the active list. The difference is between the amplifier built into the PB42X vs the one you're going to buy separately to power the MB42X. Obv the MB42X route is going to be better because the amplifier in the PB42X will be shit compared to the one you're going to buy ($30/50/75/150 options to follow later)
- Micca RB42X $150 - Amazing small size speakers. For under $200, either this or the cs5s. The rb42s have a bit more bass.
- Elac Debut 5.2/6.2 ON SALE NOW FOR $230/250. GET EM WHILE IT LASTS. Normally $280/350. These are speakers highly acclaimed by many of the speaker reviewers I consider the best (imo zerofidelity, steve guttenberg, nextbigthing (nbt) studio, thomas and stereo). Great bass, warm sound signature. Just go, what are you waiting for. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
- Q Acoustics 3020/3030i $230/400. Highly acclaimed by reviewers, look VERY NICE in white, and have a warm sound signature with lots of bass clarity and bass depth. These speakers are big, which is why they have great bass. Check the dimensions. Their size is the only downside to these fantastic speakers.
- PSB Alpha P5 $400: Great speakers for nearfield listening, aka at your desk, excels in this department more so than the other speakers (better at low volume, etc). Just all around amazing. Get these if the Q Acoustics ones are too big.
- Triangle BR02/03 $450/550. Coming from across the atlantic, these french speakers made a splash last year destroying its competition in the below $1000 range. Highly acclaimed to the point where some see them as overrated (too much hype out of nowhere in such little time). If you have the space in your setup as well as in your wallet for these, they are the way to go. Comes in black, walnut, white.
- Obligatory Klipsch R15/R51/RP600 post: you've heard of klipsch. They're widely available audiophile speakers, and so sometimes get the "overrated" hyped up treatment. They are good speakers but their have their own unique aggressively forward sound signature with the horn style tweeter. These were designed to make you feel like you're at the rock concert direct, may not be for everyone (much so not for me).
Okay here is where we need to get into specific numbers. Active speakers have built-in amplifiers so they are exempt. But passive speakers will require separate amps and so you will need to pay attention to certain specs. In speakers you will need to pay attention to their impedance (measured in ohms) and their sensitivity (measured in xx db/1m/1w). The typical mini amplifier will be class D (small form factor amps for desktop use) and their wattage per channel will be usually expressed in 4ohms. Take for instance the popular SMSL SA50. This is an amp that delivers 50 watts to its 2 channels, rated at 4 ohms. Speakers will have impedance of 4, 6, or 8 ohms usually. 50 watts at 4 ohms can be 25 watts at 8 ohms, but is probably more like 20 watts at 8 ohms, refer to product specs for specific wattage ratings at specific ohms. Speakers with high sensitivity (85-95 db/1w/1m) that have 6 ohm impedance are easier to drive with lower wattage.
But here's the thing, an the smsl sa50 will not deliver 50 CLEAN watts. Somewhere in the 30-40w range distortion will start to appear. But for reference, 30 clean watts is enough to drive sony cs5s to uncomfortably loud levels in an apartment (the whole apt, not just your room) so listening on your desktop, you only really need 10-15 clean watts (only after turning up your preamp input to maximum volume, which in this case is your youtube/windows10 volume level). Do note that if you have the space, a used $60 AV Receiver that will just shit out watts and have 5.1 surround will be the best, but these things are massive.
- Lepai 2020ti (LEPAI and not Lepy be wary) $25. 20 watts in 2 channels. Budget
- SMSL SA36 $62: SMSL's 2x20w.
- SMSL SA50 $72: The most bang for buck amp that's also decent. 2x50watts.
- Topping MX3 $130: Speaker amp, headphone amp, dac rolled into one. Allows for your speakers and headphones to be connected via USB and Bluetooth.
- SMSL AD18 $150: SMSL's answer to the MX3. This one is probably the goto. It's got 2x80w at 4ohms, has USB connection, has subwoofer out, has bluetooth connection, headphone amp, coaxial and optical connection.
If you need more watts than the AD18, you're gonna need to get a class a/b amp that just shits out watts for cheap, or get a used av receiver. If you want a new one, the best budget option is the DENON AVR-S540BT 5.2 channel AVR from accessories4less.
Good subwoofers are expensive, and cheap subwoofers will hurt your listening experience rather than improve it (muddy boomy shitty bass). Your best bet may be to simply find a used subwoofer from craigslist or offerup, just dont get the polk audio PSW10
, this is a very common sub you see on the 2nd hand market, because it is a shitty sub and so people get rid of it. Now as to whether you need a subwoofer. If you are in a dorm, don't get a subwoofer. Because.... if you live in a dorm, do not get a fucking subwoofer
. Now if you live in a small apartment, fear not, proper subwoofer management will save you noise complaints. A good subwoofer will produce good quality low end you can hear and feel without having to turn up the volume. You want to look at the subwoofer's lowest frequency it can go to. That will show you how "tight" the bass will be. Now, low volume levels on a good sub will produce that bass for you without vibrating your walls (though subwoofer and speaker isolation as well as PLACEMENT (refer to the sub-crawl) will do more for getting the most sound out of your speakers without having to turn up the volume....and just turn off the sub after a reasonable time)
Now as to how to add a subwoofer to your system will depend on what setup you have and the available connections. If your speakers or amplifier has a subwoofer output, simply connect that to your subwoofer, set the crossover freuency (the frequency at which the subwoofer will start making sound) to 80hz, or lower depending on how low of a frequency our bookshelves can go down to.
If your speakers/amp do not have a subwoofer out, you will need to find a subwoofer that has high level speaker inputs
. You will need to connect your bookshelves to the speaker outputs on the subwoofer via speaker wire/banana plugs, and then run speaker wire/banana plugs from the subwoofer input to your amplifier, ending with rca to 3.5mm connection to your pc.
- Dayton Audio SUB-800 $100: The cheapest one, don't go any cheaper. Enough said. Get from parts-express. If you need cheaper, 2nd hand market.
- Dayton Sub-1000 $120: The bigger brother. This thing is 10 inches, be prepared for a BIG box sitting in your room.
- Bic Acoustech PL-200 $300: Has good bass, goes down to 22hz. Very good bang for buck "good" subwoofer. A BIG step up from the daytons.
- SVS SB-1000 $500: Bassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Okay, I keep saying headphones and not headsets right. But you ask, Kilroy, you're an idiot. You're posting on buildapc for PC gamers and builders but you're talking headphones and not headsets. How idiotic are you? Pretty big, but friends hear me out. Now I used to live in South Korea, where PC Bangs (internet cafes) set the nation's standards for computers. All the places had to get the best bang for the buck pc gear to stay in business and remain competitive (all 100 computers at these places had like i5-6600k and gtx 1080 in 2015 or something I don't remember, along with mechanical BLUE SWITCH FUCCCCCCKKKKKKKK (imagine 100 blue switch keyboards being smashed on in a small underground area in Seoul) keyboards and decent headsets.
So I have tried MANY MANY different headsets, here is my conclusion. Just get proper headphones and get either get an antlion modmic, or V-MODA Boompro mic both available on amazon. (short list of mics later) or get proper headphones and usb mic. Okay, I have seen the headphone recommendation list, and the only one I would give any (if at all) weight to in the usual pc websites that our subreddit goes to, is the list from rtings. These guys mainly measure monitors and tvs (very well might i add) but the writer for their audio section is lacking it seems.
Please dont get Astro AXX headphones or corsair rgb xxxxxx w/e. Please for the love of god, take your good hard earned cash and get yourself a NICE pair of cans my fellow PC users. The mic part is secondary as GOOD headphones will forever change your PC using and music listening experience FOREVER
The TWO EXCEPTIONS that I have observed to this rule are the Hyperx Clouds and Cooler Master mh751/752.
- Hyperx Cloud CORE/1/2/ALPHA (please find prices on amazon). So these headphones are a rare instance of when a gaming branded pair of headphones was actually a good no bullshit product. These are hyperx reskins of OEM Takstar Pro 80, a pretty damn good pair of cans from china for under $50 (no longer available on aliexpress but Seoul had a SHIT load of these) with a mic attached to it. Chief, this is it. Reasonably good audio quality from headphone drivers for their price, and you get a mic for discord needs.
- Coolermaster MH751/752 $90/110. Now beware, on amazon there are the mh630/650/670 series headphones that are in the same...product "selection" styling part of the product page. Do NOT GET THESE, these are the typical bullshit gaming branding and are pretty bad. Now, the mh751 and 752s are coolermaster's copycat of the hyperx clouds. They are coolermaster reskins of the Takstar pro 82, another good pair of headphones. I cannot comment on this one, as I have not used either the takstar variant nor the cm variant. But the pro 82s are just as good as the 80s. If i had to guess, different styling (headband) and maybe slightly different sound signature. Difference between the 2 is the dac (the block thing in between your headphones and the wires to your pc). The dac the mh752 is most likely inferior to the dac on your mobo's build-in soundcard. Get the 751, unless you have a laptop, then the 752's dac may be better.
- Audio-Technica ath-m40x $80: You may have heard of the ath-m50/x. Now these headphones are looked down on, on the headphone forums or reddit. The m40/x is the bass reduced, aka the neutral version of the m50x for cheaper too. Great headphones for under $100. Now, I have owned the m50 waay back, and I think if you enjoy bass, then go for it. After all, they are YOUR fuckin pair of headphones and ears, who are others to say shit?
- Sony MDR7506 $100: I remember these were $75, but I guess everything changed when the coronavirus attacked. Anyway, these are the venerated mdr7506, the industry standard for headphones in the professional audio/music industry. Great quality, cheap price. They just, dont have anything going on in the looks department. These are it for pure price/performance.
- BeyerDynamic DT770 (32, 90, 250 ohms) $150: Amazing pair of cans, very comfortable. 32 ohm version if simply plugging into your motherboard. The higher ohm versions may require separate headphone amp. Generally more amps=better audio quality, but differences are NEGLIGIBLE to nonexistent with low output amps (this is like the difference in sound of the same 100w speaker powered by a $30 smsl amp vs a $5000 Mcintosh amp at the same volume levels, very subtle and small but it's there)
- HiFiMAN HE4XX $160: Simply amazing. Open back planar headphones.
- Sennheiser 650/6xx from massdrop/660 $220-$400. The legendary series of headphones from sennheiser. Highly venerated.
- HifiMAN DEVA with Bluemini Receiver $300: Interesting set of open-back planar headphones that came out recently that also allow for usb connection, as well as 3.5mm, but the bluetooth function is a separate module (with a built-in mic) that you connect to the side of the headphones. So it's actually a wired set of planar headphones, but the separate bluetooth module also allows for wireless connection. The module only has enough battery for 5ish hours, so while that is charging you will have to use the wired connection. This is a usb dac/amp/bluetooth module rolled into one. Very stylish and interesting design.
- Audeze Mobius $400: "Gaming" wireless headphones from Audeze, a high end audiophile grade planar magnetic headphone manufacturer. If those words don't mean anything to you, these are wireless headphones with a detachable mic made by an extremely respected audiophile headphone manufacturer. If you want wireless headphones, I would also suggest these or the hifiman deva. These are closed-back headphones vs Hifiman's open back. These headphones also have an onboard dac for usb/3.5mm/bluetooth connection.
Now obviously, there's other choices. A metric fuck load of them. But I had to account for how much you should be paying (price range) for upgrades in sound quality and performance.
Example options (Wireless headsets)
Okay. Wireless headsets, now let's think why do you need a wireless headset? Do you want to walk around your house while on discord? Maybe you want to keep the headset on while having to afk real quick for a smoke break or whatnot.
- TaoTronics 5.0 Bluetooth transmitter+receiver unit $30. It's a small device that can either A: give your non-bt PC bluetooth capabilities by acting as a receiver, or give your wired headphones wireless connectivity to your pc by acting as a transmitter. This thing is battery powered (like a wireless gaming headset) up to 10 hours. You just plug your wired headphones in, put the thing in your pocket and leave your pc.
- See Hifiman Deva above.
- Still here? Fine then. Steelseries artis 7. I put this....thing on this list mainly for true wireless headset inclusion. Still would recommend other headphones.
- Other wireless recommendations: Sennheiser pxc 550 and Sony wh1000xm2 and Bose QC35.
HEADPHONE AMP/DAC (digital to analogue converter)
My knowledge/experience with headphone amps and dacs are...extremely lacking, I'm more of a speaker guy. But, here is a list for you guys.
- Fiio E5/6 $15/25- portable, tiny, budget headphone amp.
- Fiio E10 $55- bang for buck
- SMSL M3 $85 - has usb and spdif connections and line out rca. good starter dac/amp combo.
- Schiit Magni $99- probably the most popular one here. This will drive anything but the most power hungry of headphones. The Schiit stack with the Magni and the Modi is the goto stack for small form factor amp+dac.
- Micca Origen G2 $110 - DAC/amp combo that has usb and fibre, and has a switchable pre-out for powered speakers. Accepts 3.5mm and 1/4''
- V-MODA BoomPRO $30: this is a mic with a 3.5mm that plugs in to your headphones that have a removable cable, simple.
- Antlion modmic $50: yes the modmic. You've probably heard of this.
- Fifine K669B condensor mic $46: simple mic on a stand that plugs in via usb. Imo has better recording quality than Blue snowball.
- Blue Snowball $57: Yes, you've most definitely heard of this.
Other mics? Yes, but are they worth the extra $$ for marginally better audio recording? You decide.
Cool. Stay safe in these dark times brothers. Have a glorious day.
Updated list of Global Beermoney opportunities (+180!) - June 2020
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Updated list of Global Beermoney opportunities (+180!) - June 2020
The current, and now previous, Beermoney Global list
started nearly 5 years ago. It’s been updated and has grown over all that time, but it also became a hassle to keep current. It was time to build a new list from scratch based on my experience in the Beermoney world over all these years and all the contributions all of you have been making in this sub.
The lists consist of opportunities that are available in at least one country that is not the US. This means there are sites which only work in Canada or the UK. There’s sites which are open to the whole world, but this does not mean everyone can really earn something on it. It’s all still very demographic and therefore location dependent. This list should give you a starting point to try out and find what works for you. I’m not using everything myself as I prefer to focus on a few, so not all are tested by me. They are found in this sub, other subreddits and other resources where people claim to have success.
I’ve chosen the format of a simple table with the bare minimum of information to keep things clean. It includes a link, how you earn, personal payment proof if available and sign-up bonus codes if applicable. Some of these bonuses are also one-time use codes specifically made for this sub! For the ones I don’t have payment proof (yet) feel free to provide some as a comment or via modmail so others know it’s legit. I am working on detailed instructions for each method that I personally use which will include things like cashout minimum, cashout options, tips & tricks,... For now I’ve split things up based on the type of earning like passive or mobile. Because of this there’s sometimes an overlap as some are both passive and on mobile or both earning crypto and a GPT (Get Paid To) website.
The lists are obviously not complete so I invite you to keep posting new ones in the sub, as a comment to this post, or in modmail. Especially if you have sites or apps which work for one single specific country I can start building a list, just like I did for The Netherlands and Belgium. If you recognize things which are in fact scams or not worth it let me know as well.
Get Paid To (Surveys, tasks, offers, videos, clicking links, play games, searching)
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|ySense - The best global site ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Paypal ||/ |
|PrizeRebel ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Paypal ||Enter code 'beermoneyglobal' |
|SerpClix ||Google searching ||Paypal ||/ |
|Swagbucks & SwagButton ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos, shopping & cashback, games, apps ||Paypal ||/ |
|GG2U ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Pending ||$1.00 if register here |
|Keep Rewarding ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos, PTC ||Pending ||$0.25 if register here |
|Ebesucher ||Surfing, reading mails ||Bank transfer ||/ |
|Reward XP ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Pending ||$0.50 if register here |
|Gain.gg ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Paypal ||$0.10 if register here |
|Timebucks ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos, Tik Tok, Shopping ||Pending ||$1.00 if register here |
|GamerMine ||Surveys, offers, videos, tasks, ||Pending ||$1.00 if register here |
|Gamehag ||Tasks, offers, play games, post on forum, writing ||Pending ||/ |
|BTCSurveys ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|FruitLab ||Watch & upload video game clips ||Pending ||100 pips if register here |
|Clickworker ||Transcripts, tasks, UHRS (categorizing), surveys ||Paypal ||/ |
|FreeSkins ||Surveys, offers, tasks, videos ||Pending ||100 coins if register here |
|iRazoo ||Games, surveys, videos, offers, apps ||Pending ||Enter code 'AK7DB2' for 500 points when signing up |
|EarnCrypto ||Data entry, surveys, offers, tasks, videos, games, apps ||Pending ||/ |
|Blockreward ||Apps, surveys, videos, tasks, offers ||Pending ||$2.00 if register here and earn 20000b + $2.00 if earn 10000b within 30 days |
|PaidViewPoint ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|GrabPoints ||Suverys, videos, offers, games, apps ||Pending ||500 points if register here |
|RewardingWays ||Surveys, offers, tasks, videos, contests ||Pending ||$0.20 if register here |
|SuperPay ||Surveys, offers, tasks, videos, contests ||Pending ||$0.20 if register here |
|InstaGC ||Surveys, tasks, videos, apps ||Pending ||/ |
|GiftHunterClub ||Surveys, offers, videos, apps, games ||Pending ||$0.75 if register here |
|Idle-Empire ||Surveys, offers, videos, mining, apps, games ||Pending ||500 points if register here |
|PicoWorkers ||Tasks, games, apps ||Pending ||/ |
|ViewFruit ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Mobrog (change language if needed) ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Surveytime ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Giveaway Pros ||Offers, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|SEO Sprint (Russian, use Google Translate) ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Earnhoney ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Toluna ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Spidermetrix ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|BeerSurveys ||Surveys, tasks, offers ||Pending ||/ |
|CrowdHolding ||Co-create with startups ||Pending ||/ |
|Diaworkers ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Presearch ||Search & Earn ||Pending ||/ |
|Univox Community ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|YouGov ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Spare5 ||Tasks ||Paypal ||/ |
|Rewardia ||Surveys, polls, games, videos, puzzles, trivia ||Pending ||3000 points extra (when you earn 3000 points) if register here |
|Earnably ||Surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Neevo ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Rakuten Insight (country specific links) ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|The Panel Station ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Remotasks ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Pureprofile ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|UserCrowd ||Tasks ||PayPal ||/ |
|Sruvey Village ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|InboxDollars/InboxPounds ||Surveys, offers, videos, shopping ||Pending ||/ |
|Qmee ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|MicroWorkers ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Cinchbucks ||Surveys, offers, tasks, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Rewards1 ||Suverys, videos, offers, games, apps, polls, contests ||Pending ||/ |
|Vindale ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|PointClub ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|TGM Panel ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|PaidPoints ||Tasks, offers, traffic exchange, ad clicking ||Pending ||/ |
|RapidWorkers ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|AnyTask ||Sell your skills ||Pending ||/ |
|Bounty0x ||Tasks ||Pending ||/ |
|Opinion World ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Lifepoints ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
Passive (desktop & mobile)
Crypto (faucets, mining, GPT)
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Cointiply ||Faucet, surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Bitcoin ||Enter code 'beermoneyglobal' |
|FreeBitcoin ||Faucet, lottery, betting, passive interest ||Bitcoin ||/ |
|AdBTC ||Click ads, active window surfing, autosurfing ||Pending ||/ |
|Faucetpay ||Faucet Wallet, exchange, offers, tasks, trading ||Pending ||/ |
|Faucet Crypto ||Faucet, ads clicking, offers, shortlinks ||Pending ||/ |
|More Money ||Faucet, ads clicking, offers, shortlinks ||Pending ||/ |
|Kryptex ||Crypto mining ||Pending ||/ |
|Quicrypto ||Surveys, tasks, offers, games, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Coinpot ||Faucet ||Bitcoin ||/ |
|Honeyminer ||Mining ||Pending ||1000 satoshis if register here |
|BitShark ||Faucet, games ||Pending ||/ |
|Publish0x ||Read & write articles ||Pending ||/ |
|Starbits ||Faucet (need FaucetPay account) ||Pending ||/ |
|Coinpayu ||Ads clicking, videos, offers ||Pending ||/ |
|BTCSurveys ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Blockreward ||Apps, surveys, videos ||Pending ||$2.00 if register here and earn 20000b + $2.00 if earn 10000b within 30 days |
|Coinbase ||Crypto sign-up bonuses ||Bank transfer ||See links in thread |
|LBRY.tv ||Watch videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Pi Network ||Crypto mining ||Pending (see here) ||To join you need a referral link |
|EarnCrypto ||Data entry, surveys, offers, tasks, videos, games, apps ||Pending ||/ |
|Phoneum ||Games, mining ||Pending ||/ |
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Cointiply ||Faucet, surveys, tasks, offers, videos ||Bitcoin ||Enter code 'beermoneyglobal' |
|HoneyGain ||Desktop & mobile phone bandwith sharing (wifi + data) ||Paypal ||$5.00 if register here |
|Google Opinion Rewards ||Surveys ||Play Store credit ||/ |
|FreeBitcoin ||Faucet, lottery, betting, passive interest ||Bitcoin ||/ |
|AppKarma ||Games, quizes, surveys ||Pending ||Enter code 'Proim' for 300 points when signing up |
|CashKarma ||Surveys, offers, games ||Pending ||Enter code 'Proim' for 300 points when signing up |
|Cash Alarm ||Games ||Pending ||Receive 25% of my earnings if register here |
|Cash Magnet ||Games, offers, tasks, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|AttaPoll ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|ClipClaps ||Videos, games, raffles ||PayPall ||$1.00 & Diamond Chest if register here |
|Quicrypto ||Surveys, tasks, offers, games, videos ||Pending ||/ |
|Poll Pay ||Surveys ||Pending ||$0.30 if using code '4CS6L4SQ8D' when signing up |
|BuzzBreak ||Read news, videos, offers, surveys ||Pending ||Enter code 'B06472489' when signing up |
|Userlytics ||Software testing ||Pending ||/ |
|WowApp ||Games, offers, surveys, videos, chat, phone unlock, calling, cashback, shopping cashback, browsing, news reading ||Pending ||/ |
|CuriousCat ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Quickthoughts ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Fitplay ||Games ||Pending ||$0.33 if register here |
|TV-Two Make Money ||Apps, games, Youtube, browsing ||Pending ||555 credits if register here |
|Mistplay ||Games ||Pending ||/ |
|FeaturePoints ||Suveys, offers, apps, cashback ||Pending ||50 points if register here |
|Money SMS ||Receive SMS ||Pending ||/ |
|BIGtoken ||Suveys, location sharing, social media account ||Pending ||Use code 'GMGALLOIA' |
|McMoney ||Receive SMS ||Pending ||$0.22 if using code '60LGG3PR' |
|Pi Network ||Crypto mining ||Pending (see here) ||To join you need a referral link |
|Roamler ||Mystery shopping ||Pending ||/ |
|SMS Profit Net ||Receive SMS ||Pending ||/ |
|Streetbees ||Surveys, tasks, create videos, take pictures ||Pending ||Enter code '6115GF' when signing up |
|Simcash ||Send SMS [risky] ||Pending ||/ |
|VoxPopMe ||Video feedback ||Pending ||/ |
|Cash4sms ||Send [risky] & receive SMS ||Pending ||/ |
|Citizen Me ||Surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|ControlMySMS ||Receive SMS ||Pending ||/ |
|Birdchain ||Send SMS [risky] ||Pending ||/ |
|Sweatcoin ||Walking ||Pending ||/ |
|COIN ||Explore ||Pending ||1000 coins if register here |
|Panel App ||Surveys, location sharing ||Pending ||/ |
|GiftHunterClub ||Surveys, offers, videos, apps, games ||Pending ||$0.75 if register here |
|Phoneum ||Games, mining ||Pending ||/ |
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Respondent ||Interviews, research, surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Prolific ||Surveys, research ||Paypal ||/ |
Investing (revenue share)
Selling (designs on merchandise, skills/gigs)
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Fiverr ||Sell your skills ||Pending ||20% off on first purchase if register here |
|Redbubble ||Sell your designs ||Pending ||/ |
|Zeerk ||Sell your skills ||Pending ||/ |
|TeePublic ||Sell your designs ||Pending ||/ |
|Teespring ||Sell your designs ||Pending ||/ |
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Rev ||Transcribing, captioning, foreign subtitles ||Pending ||/ |
|Gotranscript ||Transcribing, translating captioning, foreign subtitles ||Pending ||/ |
|TranscribeMe ||Transcribing, translating, data annotation ||Pending ||/ |
|Unbabel ||Translating ||Pending ||/ |
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Wealthy Affiliate ||Learn affiliate marketing ||Pending ||/ |
|Brave ||Brows internet ||Pending ||/ |
|Andromo ||Develop apps ||Pending ||/ |
The Netherlands specific
For The Netherlands there are a few very good options next to a bunch of ‘spaarprogramma’s. There ‘spaarprogramma’s are all the same where you receive and click a bunch of e-mails, advertisements, banners,... I advise you to create a separate e-mail address or use a good filter in your inbox as you will be spammed to death. I believe they can be a nice piece of beermoney but they take quite the effort.
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Euroclix ||Surveys, shopping & cashback, offers, energy/internet providers ||Bank transfer ||€1.95 if register here |
|StemPunt ||Surveys ||Gift cards ||500 points if register here |
|Cashback XL ||Shopping cashback, health insurance discount ||Bank transfer ||/ |
|Scoupy ||Shopping cashback, free products ||Pending ||/ |
|Cashback Korting ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€7.50 if register here |
|Lady Cashback ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€7.50 if register here |
|Enqueteclub ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€7.50 if register here |
|Snel Verdienen ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€2.50 if register here |
|Spaar Actief ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Klik Je Zakgeld ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Zinngeld ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€0.10 if register here |
|My Clics ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|Direct Verdiend ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€2.00 if register here |
|Spaar4Cash ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Qassa ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|My Flavours ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Cash Ze ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Geld Race ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|iPay ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|Double Points ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€2.00 if register here |
|Mailbeurs ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Qlics ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|Centmail ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Extra Euro ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|Gekken Goud ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Dutch Euro ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Nu Cash ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register |
|Snel Euro ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Cash Hier ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Betaalde Mails ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€2.00 if register here |
|Goudmails ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Online Cashen ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Crazy Mails ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Cash Paradijs ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Smart Clix ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€5.00 if register here |
|24/7 Discount ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||/ |
|Beetje Zakgeld ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.25 if register here |
|Geldmolen ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.75 if register here |
|Online Zakcentje ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.50 if register here |
|Geldcircus ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€0.75 if register here |
|Lady Clix ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€0.99 if register here |
|Geldwolf ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Zilvervloot ||Read mails, click banners, shopping cashback, shopping deals, compare (GWL, data, internet, tv, insurances), offers, surveys ||Pending ||€1.00 if register here |
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Buffl ||Surveys ||Gift cards ||/ |
The one-time sign-up bonus programs are still to be found here
. If you find a new one let me know so I can create the post to keep all the ref links together.
Although it’s not really about making money online, it’s still nice to save some money as well when shopping online.
|Register here ||How to earn ||Payment proof ||Sign-up bonus code |
|Honey ||Discounts & Cashback ||/ ||500 Honey Gold if register here |
|G2A ||Game keys ||/ ||/ |
|Kinguin ||Game keys ||/ ||/ |
|Allkeyshop ||Game keys ||/ ||/ |
|AliExpress ||Save on online shopping ||/ ||$24 coupons if register here |
|Gearbest ||Save on online shopping ||/ ||/ |
Other subs & resources
IS ____ AN MLM? SEARCH HERE. (MEGA THREAD)
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For a quick, easier search - http://www.isthisanmlm.com/ has compiled this whole thread. Special thanks to u/SHIFTnSPACE. - This is now a part of the sidebar as a button widget!
What is an MLM?
Multi-level marketing (MLM), also called pyramid selling, network marketing, and referral marketing, is a marketing strategy for the sale of products or services where the revenue of the MLM company is derived from a non-salaried workforce selling the company's products/services, while the earnings of the participants are derived from a pyramid-shaped or binary compensation commission system.
THIS LIST MAY CONTAIN COMPANIES THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD MLM BRANCH BUT MAY NO LONGER HAVE ONE. If you see a company and are not sure that it belongs on this list, please reach out. I have compiled this list from the sources listed at the bottom along with input from community members. This list may not be 100% accurate but the goal is to get it as close as possible. 31 - Bags
5Linx - Home & Business Services
Abby & Anna - Clothing
ACAN Pacific - Utilities
ACN - Utilities
ActiLabs - Skincare/Health
Adornable.U - Accessories
Advocare - Dietary Supplements
AeroGrow - Garden Tools
Agnes & Dora - Clothing
AIM Global - Nutritional Supplements
Akasuka (Japan) -
Alcone - Beauty
Alice's Table - Flower Arrangement Classes
All'asta - Home Goods
Allysian Sciences -
Aloe Vera of America (Young Living) - Nutritional Supplements
Aloette - Beauty
Alphay Int - Nutritional Supplements
AlureVe - Skincare/Health
Amare Global - Nutritional Supplements
Ambit - Utilities
Amelia James -
Ameo - Essential Oils
American Income Life - Financial
Amsoil - Motor Oil
Amway - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Ann Summers - Product
Ann Summers (UK) - Adult Novelties
Anorak (UK) - Home Goods
Anran (China) -
Apollo (India) - Juice
Apriori - Skincare/Health
AquaSource UK - Nutritional Supplements
Arbonne - Skincare/Health
ARIIX - Water Purification
Arsoa Honsha (Japan) - Fitness/Weight Loss
Asea Global - Nutritional Supplements
Asirvia (shut down) - Marketing
Aspire/Digital Altitude - Marketing
ATC Coin - Crypto Currency
Athena's - Adult Novelties
Atomy - Skincare/Health
Ava Anderson -
Ava Rose - Clot
Avisae - Weight Loss
Avon - Beauty
b:hip Global - Health
Bachar Nutrition - Nutritional Supplements
Bamboo Pink - Jewelry
Barefoot Books - Books
Bath.Ologie - Bath Bombs
Beach Body - Fitness/Weight Loss Videos
BearCereju (Japan) - Cosmetics
Beauty Counter - Cosmetics
Beauty Society - Beauty
beCAUSE Cosmetics - Cosmetics
Become International (US & AUS) - Cosmetics
Bedroom Kandi - Adult Novelties
Beever (UK) - Hair Care
BelCorp (Latin America) - Cosmetics
Bellame - Skincare/Health
Bemer - Appliances
Better Way Design/Imports - Clothing
Biogreen Argentina -
BioPerformance - Automotive (Fuel Pills)
Bod-e Pro - Nutritional Supplements
Body by Vi/Visalus - Health
Body Shop at Home - Beauty
Boisset Collection - Wine
Boston Finney (shut down) -
Bounce Life/Network - Insurance
Bud Star (Canada) - CBD/THC Products
BurnLounge (shut down as pyramid scheme by FTC in 2012) -
Buskins - Clothing
Butterfly Beauty - Cosmetics
Cabi - Clothing
Cambridge Weight Plan/Diet - Dietary Supplements
CAN - Utilities
Captain Tortue - Clothing
Carico Int - Home Goods
Celebrating Home - Home Goods
Cellements - Skincare/Health
CEO Movement (Not MLM but scammy) -
Chalk Couture - Chalkboard Signs
Chalky & Co - Home Goods
Chandeal (Japan) - Clothing
Charle (Japan) - Clothing
Charlie's Project - Clothing
Chef's Toolbox (AUS) (Insolvency) - Kitchen Accessories
Cherish Natural Products -
Chloe & Isabel - Jewelry
Clever Container - Home Goods
Close to My Heart - Scrapbooking
Cloud 9 Parties - Adult Novelties
Cobra Group/Appco -
Cocoa Exchange - Food
Color by Amber - Jewelry
Color Happy -
Color Street - Nail Wraps
Colour Me Beautiful (UK) - Clothing
Compelling Creations - Jewelry
Conklin - Roofing
Cookie Lee (shut down) -
Cosway (Malaysia) - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Country Scents - Product/Candles
Create Your Life - Health
Creative Memories - Scrapbooking
Credit Repair USA - Financial
Crunchi - Cosmetics
Cutco - Knives
CVSL - Multiple Companies
Daisy Blue Naturals - Personal Care
Damsel in Defense - Product/Self Defense
Darceys - Candles
David Lerner Associates, INC - Financial
Dazzle and Daze - Clothing
Deutsche vermögensberatung/Dvag (Germany) - Financial
Diana (Japan) -
Dione Cosmetics - Cosmetics
Direct Cellars/DC Nation - Wine
Discovery Toys - Educational Toys
Dot Dot Smile - Clothing
DoTERRA - Health/Oils
Du Northing Designs - Clothing
Dubli Network - Financial
Dudley Beauty - Cosmetics
DXN - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Dynamic Essentials -
EcoWarehouse - Home Goods
Elk River Soaps - Personal Care
Ella Tina - Clothing
Elli Kai - Clothing
Elvacity - Nutritional Supplements
EmGoldEx/Global Intergold -
Enagic/Kangen Water - Ionized Water
Endless Xpressions - Clothing/Accessories
Enersource Int - Nutritional Supplements
Enjo (AUS) - Cleaning Producs
Envy Jewelry - Jewelry
Epicure (Canada) - Food
Equinox International (dissolved in 2001) -
Ergo (Germany) - Insurance
Essante Organics -
Essential Bodywear - Clothing
European Grouping of Marketing Professionals/CEDIPAC SA (dissolved 1995) -
European Home Retail (dissolved 2007) -
Evanescence Network - Health
EVER Skincare - Skincare/Health
Evolution Travel - Product
EvolvHealth - Health
Faberlic (Russia) - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Family First Life - Insurance
Family Heritage Insurance - Insurance
Fantasia - Adult Novelties
Fantasia (Canada) - Adult Novelties
FES Connect - Financial
Fibi & Clo - Footwear
Fifth Ave Collection - Jewelry
First Fitness Nutrition - Dietary Supplements
Fit4Mom - Clothing
FITTEAM Global - Dietary Supplements
Flamingo Paperie - Art
FM World (UK) -
For Tails Only - Pet Supplies
Forever Living - Health/Oils
Forex Education (iMarkets Live branch) - Crypto
Forex Entourage - Financial
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (dissolved 2013) -
Four Oceans - Health
Fragant Jewels - Bathbombs
FreeLife - Nutritional Supplements
Fuel Freedom Int - Automotive
Fund America (Bankrupt 1990) -
Gano Excel - Nutritional Supplements
GelMoment - Beauty
Gemstra - Jewelry
Genesis Pure - Nutritional Supplements
Global Legacy Initiative -
GoDesana - Pet
Gold Canyon - Product/Candles
Golden Days (China) - Health
Grace & Heart - Jewelry
Green HoriZen - CBD
Greeting Cake Company - Cake Kits
H2O At Home - Personal Care
Hale - CBD Oil
Hanky Panky Parties (Canada) - Adult Novelties
Happy Coffee - Coffee
Harvard Risk Management (Legal Shield) -
Hayward's Gourmet Popcorn - Food
HB Naturals - Health
He(L)o - Health
Healthy Peach - Dietary Supplements
Heavenly Chia - Food
Heka Corp - Fitness
Helo Wristbands - Health
HempWorx - Health
Herbalife - Health
Heritage Makers - Scrapbooking
Hinode - Cosmetics
Holiday Magic (shut down) -
Home Interiors - Home Goods
Honey - Beauty
Honey & Lace - Clothing
Hualin Biotech (China) - Health
iCoinPro - Crypto Currency
ID Life - Health
Igniting Passion (Canada) - Adult Novelties
iMarketsLive - Financial Trading Software
Immunotec - Health
Imperial Candles (UK) - Candles
In a Pikle - Bags
Income Advantage -
India Hicks - Product/Accessories
Infinitus - Health
Initials, Inc - Bags
Inkd Up Nails - Beauty
innov8tive nutrition - Nutritional Supplements
InteleTravel - Travel
Intimo (AUS/NZ) - Adult Novelties
Isagenix - Dietary Supplements
ItWorks! - Health
J. Elizabeth - Clothing
J. Hilburn - Clothing
J.R Watkins -
Jafra - Beauty
Jamberry - Beauty
Jamby - Clothing
Jamie at Home (shut down) -
Janice Collection - Home Goods
Java Momma - Coffee
Javita - Coffee
Jbloom - Jewelry
Jequiti - Cosmetics
Jerky Direct -
Jeunesse - Beauty
Jewel Kade (31) - Jewelry
Jewelscent - Product/Candles
JK Apparel (Canada) - Clothing
Jordan Essentials - Beauty
JoyMain (China) - Health
Joyome (Plexus) - Beauty
JuicePlus - Nutritional Supplements
Jump Natural - Health
Kaesar & Blair -
Kalaia - Skincare/Health
Kalo & Co - Pearl/Jewelry
Kangen Water -
Kannaway - CBD Oil
Karat Bars - Gold
Kaszazz - Scrapbooking
Keep Collective - Jewelry
Keep Me Safe - Cos
KETO (Pruvit) -
Keto Coffee - Coffee
Ketones - Health
Kirby - Vacuums
Kleeneze - Home Goods
Kobold (Vorwerk) -
Kyani - Health
Labella Baskets - Home Goods
Lady Godiva Beauty - Cosmetics
Lavylites - Beauty
L'BRI - Beauty
LeadUp Consulting -
Legal Shield - Legal Services
LegArt (Canada) - Leggings
Legend Age (China) -
Legging Army - Clothing
Legging Girl - Clothing
Lemongrass Spa - Beauty
LeReve (Canada) - Cosmetics
Le-Vel (Thrive) - Health
Lia Sophia (dissolved) - Jewelry
Life Abundance - Pet
LIFE Leadership - Financial
Life Tree World - Food
LifePlus (US/Germany) - Dietary Supplements
Life's Abundance - Pet Supplies
LifeVantage - Dietary Supplements
Lilla Rose - Jewelry
Limelife - Skincare/Health
Limu - Health
Limu - Nutritional Supplements
Linen World - Home Goods
Lion Crown -
Lipsense - Beauty
Liv International - Travel
Live Sore - Clothing
Longabeger Company - Baskets
Longrich (China) - Beauty
Lorraine Lee Linen - Home Goods
Love Winx - Adult Novelties
LR Beauty & Health - Beauty
LuLaRoe - Clothing
Lulu Ave - Jewelry
Luminess - Cosmetics
Lyoness - Financial
M. Global (Jamberry) - Jewelry
M. Network - Nutritional Supplements
Maelle Beauty - Beauty
Magnabilities - Jewelry
Magnolia & Vine - Jewelry
Makeup Eraser - Cosmetics
Man Cave - Kitchen Accessories
Mannatech - Dietary Supplements
Mark. - Financial
Market America - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Marly Ray - Pearl/Jewelry
Marvelous Mouse Travels - Travel
Mary & Martha - Home Goods
MaryKay - Beauty
Maskara - Beauty
Matilda Jane - Clothing
Max & Madeleine - Skincare/Health
Maxwell Clothing - Clothing
MCA - Financial
Medifast - Nutritional Supplements
Melaleuca - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Metabolife (dissolved in 2005) -
MiA Bath and Body (Closed) -
mialisia - Jewelry
Miche EU - Accessories
Miki (Asia) - Nutritional Supplements
MOA Nutrition - Nutritional Supplements
MojiLife - Essential Oils
Monat - Hair Care
MonaVie (went into foreclosure 2015) -
Morinda Bioactives - Personal Care/Dietary Supplements
Motives Cosmetics - Cosmetics
Multpure - Water
My Club 8 - CBD Oil
My Daily Choice - Nutritional Supplements
My LALA Leggings - Clothing
myEcon - Financial
National Safety Associates - Dietary Supplements
National Wealth Center - Education
Natura (Brazil) - Cosmetics
Nature Direct (AUS) - Essential Oils
Nature's Sunshine Products - Dietary Supplements
Neal's Yard Remedies Organic - Beauty
NeoLife - Dietary Supplements
Neora (Nerium) -
Nerium - Skincare/Health
NeVetica - Pet Supplies
New Era (China) - Nutritional Supplements
New U Life - Health
Neways - Personal Care
Noevir - Beauty
Nomades - Jewelry
Noonday Collection - Jewelry
Norwex - Cleaning Producs
Nouveau Riche (real estate investment college) (dissolved 2010 -
Nspire Network - Feminine Products
NuCerity - Skincare/Health
NuSkin - Tooth Paste/Personal Care
NXIVM - Financial
Nygard - Clothing
Omnilife - Dietary Supplements
One Hope Wine - Wine
Optavia - Health
Opulenza - Jewelry
Organo Gold - Coffee
Oriflame - Personal Care
Origami Owl - Jewelry
Our Hearts Desire - Jewelry
Paid 2 Save - Travel
Pampered Chef - Kitchen Accessories
Paparazzi - Jewelry
Paperly - Paper
Park Lane Jewelry - Jewelry
Party Girl - Candles
Party Lite - Candles
Party Time Mixes - Food
PartyLite - Candles
Passion Parties - Adult Novelties
Pawtree - Pet
Paycation - Travel
Peach - Clothing
Pearl Chic - Pearl/Jewelry
Peekaboo Beans - Clothing
Perfect (China) - Cosmetics
Perfectly Polished - Beauty
Perfectly Posh - Beauty
Personally Poetic - Jewelry
PHP - Insurance
Pierre Lang - Jewelry
Pink Zebra - Candles
Piphany - Clothing
PixieLane - Clothing
Plexus - Health
Plumeria Bath - Beauty
Plunder - Jewelry
PM International - Health
Pola (Japan) - Skincare/Health
Poofy Organics - Beauty
Powur - Solar Panels
Premier Designs - Jewelry
Premier Financial - Financial
PrimeMyBody - Health
Primerica - Financial
Princess House - Kitchen Accessories
ProYoung - Health
Pruvit - Health
Pulse Cosmetics - Cosmetics
Pure Haven - Cosmetics
Pure Romance - Product
PureHaven - Home Goods
PUREly - Essential Oils
Purium - Health
Qnet - Nutritional Supplements
Quanjian Natural (China) - Food
Rain International - Health
Rainbow Vacuum - Vacuums
Real Time Pain Relief - Health
Red Aspen - Beauty
RED Safety - Security
Regal Home and Gifts - Home Goods
Reliv - Health
Reliv - Nutritional Supplements
Renatus Real Estate - Education
RevitalU - Coffee/Health
Riway - Deer Placenta
Robert Kiyosaki -
Rodan+Fields - Beauty
Roland (Vorwerk) -
Rolmex (China) - Kitchen Accessories
Royal Tongan Limu (dissolved in 2003) -
Royaltie Gens - Marketing
Ruby Ribbon - Clothing
Saba - Health/Beauty
Sabika Jewelry - Jewelry
SafeGirl Security - Self Defense
Salad Master - Home Goods
SARSO (India) -
Scentsy - Health/Oils
Schneider's Gourmet World - Food
Scout & Cellar - Wine
Seacret - Beauty
SendOutCards - Gift Cards
Senegence - Skincare/Health
Shakeology (BeachBody) - Dietary Supplements
Shaklee - Dietary Supplements
Shopping Sherlock -
Shrimp & Grits - Clothing
Signature Homestyles - Home Goods
Silpada - Jewelry
Silver Icing - Jewelry
Simple Man - Personal Care
Simply Success Elite -
SimplyFun Games - Education
Skinny Body at Home - Dietary Supplements
SkinSanity/Tomorrow's Leaf - Skincare/Health
Smart Circle -
Solavei (dissolved 2015)[ -
Solvei (bankrupt) -
Sophie Paris (France/Asia) - Clothing
South Hill Designs - Jewelry
Southern Living at Home - Home Goods
SouthWestern Advantage - Education
Sseko - Clothing
Stampin Up - Paper
Steam Energy - Utilities
Steeped Tea - Tea
Stella & Dot - Clothing
Stream Energy - Financial
Style Dots - Jewelry
Success University - Education
Sun Hope (China) -
Sunrider - Health/Beauty/Home Goods
Sunset Gourmet - Food
Sunshine Empire (dissolved 2009) -
Surge 365 - Travel
Sweet Legs - Clothing
Sweet Minerals - Beauty
Symmetry Financial Group - Insurance
Syntek Global - Automotive
T.O.P Marketing Group -
TAG Team Marketing -
Taisei/Green Planet/Kaikisui (Japan_ - Purifiers
Tara at Home - Home Goods
Tastefully Simple - Food
Tavala - Health
Tealightful - Tea
Team National - Financial
TeDivina - Tea
Telecom Plus (UK) - Utilities
Telexfree (bankrupt 2014) -
The Advert Platfrom - Crypto Currency
The Body Shop at Home - Beauty
The Landmark Forum - Health
The Super Affiliate Network - Marketing
Thermomix (Vorwerk) -
Thirty One - Bags
Thrive - Health
Thrive Life - Food
Tiber River Naturals - Beauty
TKO WorldWide -
Tocara (Canada) - Jewelry
Tom James - Clothing
Total Life Changes/TLC - Health
TouchStone Crystal - Jewelry
Touchstone Essentials - Dietary Supplements
Tracy Negoshian - Clothing
Trades of Hope - Jewelry
Tranont - Financial
Transformational Beauty - Cosmetics
Travel Evolution - Travel
Traveling Vineyard - Wine
TraVerus Global - Travel
TriVita - Nutritional Supplements
Tropic Skin Care - Skincare/Health
True Peak Revolution (Europe) -
Truvision Health - Health
TS-Life - Nutritional Supplements
Tupperware - Tupperware
Unicity - Health
United Sciences of America (dissolved in 1987) -
United Warehouse (UK) -
US Health Advisors -
Usana - Nutritional Supplements
Usborne - Books
Utility Warehouse (UK) - Utilities
Valentus - Dietary Supplements
Vantel - Product/Pearls
Vasayo - Health
VectoCutco - Knives
Vemma - Dietary Supplements
viaOneHope - Wine
ViBella - Jewelry
VIC Cosmetics -
Vida Divina - Tea
Vie at Home (closed) -
Virtuity Financial Group (World Financial Group) -
ViSalus (Body by VI) - Dietary Supplements
Vitality Extracts - Essential Oils
VivaMK - Cleaning Producs
Volo - Health
Vorwerk - Home Goods
Votre Belle Maison (UK) - Giftware
Voxxlife - Health
Wakaya Perfection - Health
WakeUpNow (dissolved 2015) -
Watkins Inc - Health/Home Goods
Wealthperx - Travel
Wikaniko - Home Goods
Wildtree - Food
Willing Beauty - Beauty
Winasun - Health
Wine Shop at Home - Wine
Wines for Humanity - Wine
Wink Naturals - Health
World Financial Group/Pinnacle Leadership Development - Financial
World Leadership Group (dissolved in 2008) -
World Ventures/Wealth Wave/TKO WorldWide - Travel
WoTaBu - Travel
XanGo/Ziji - Health
Xerveo - Dietary Supplements
Xoom Energy - Utilities
Xooma - Weight Loss
Xstream Travel - Travel
Xyngular - Health
Yanbal Int - Jewelry
Yandi (China) - Nutritional Supplements
Yelloow - Beauty
Yevo (closed) -
Yofoto (China) - Health
Yoli - Health
YOR Health - Weight Loss
Young Living - Health
Younique - Beauty
YTB International - Travel
Zija - Health
Zilis - Health
Zinzino (Scandanavia) -
Zrii - Skincare/Health
Zurvita - Health
Zyia - Clothing
Zyn - Travel
TOTAL COUNT = 594 This list will be continually updated (5/19/2020).
2018 Archived MLM Mega Thread
Sources: https://mlmtruth.org/2018/02/08/the-mlm-master-list/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multi-level_marketing_companies Special thanks to u/Copacetic1515 (I could not stick your thread)
For income disclosure information: Updated 2019 Thread
Other Helpful Links: Discussion about World Financial Group
How I got from first stream to affiliate in the first month - I hope this helps you, too. (I spent a lot of time on this, here’s hoping it doesn’t get lost in new)
Hi friends, submitted by DrWattsTV to Twitch [link] [comments]
I want to first say that this isn’t a scheme or magical program to make Twitch growth “easy.” It also isn’t an effort to get you to subscribe or donate to my channel. The sole purpose of writing this is to attempt to provide all of the information and strategy I’ve used to date in a single, concise and digestible post -- something I wish I had on day one. As such, everything I have to share is below and there’s no link to bring you anywhere else. For those of you that I’ve talked with about this (friends, followers and subs) and those of you I don’t know, I really hope it helps!
Just over five weeks into streaming and I feel very fortunate to say that I reached affiliate status only a few days after the one-month mark. I’ve got 83 followers (only four of whom are people I personally know), 10 organic subscribers and nearly 1,000 views. No programs, No follow for follows, No boosts, No bot viewers/follows, etc. -- No BS. This past week, I averaged around 8 viewers, with some times higher and others lower.
This isn’t a brag. This is to say that there are things that I’ve learned in the past month, read from various resources, and watched over the course of countless youtube videos, that have propelled my stream forward much faster than I ever would’ve anticipated. Some growth strategies you’ll read about from only six months ago may no longer work due to the saturated nature of Twitch, while others may have been developed years ago and still work to this day. Perhaps to you, my numbers are quite low, or maybe you’ve been on your twitch journey for months, still seeking affiliate status but don’t quite know where to go next. Either way, I hope I can offer something to help you below.
Introductions aside, here are the points I’ve found most critical thus far in no particular order;
CAM - It seems to be the consensus among larger streamers and content creators that you absolutely need to have a cam if you want your channel to get anywhere. I completely agree with this sentiment. You are the focal point of your stream. Without a cam, your viewers are essentially watching gameplay footage with commentary here and there which can just as easily be done elsewhere. If you don’t have a cam and can’t afford one, that’s okay! You can actually use your phone as a cam and it’s much easier than you think it would be. Just google “EpocCam.” In my opinion, the app made it fairly self explanatory to set up. There’s a free version of the app and a paid version for something like eight dollars to get rid of the ads. It’s well worth the eight dollars, because the ads make it a frustration and you’ll already have plenty of those elsewhere when setting up your stream for the first time. P.S. I’m not endorsed or sponsored by this company -- If you’ve got a more efficient/inexpensive way to get a cam, take it!
PERSONALITY - Let the you who is you shine through. I just made that up. It’s 4:00AM. In all sincerity, this will likely be the most critical element of your channel. I have a theory on the success of this point which comes from a personal favorite streamer; the two-time himself, DrDisrespect. Doc clearly plays a well-developed character, but it comes across genuine. This gave me the impression of embellishing who he really is. Is Guy Beahm (Doc’s real name) actually an 80’s super villain, destroying anyone and anything in his path from behind the wheel of his red 1990 Lambo? No. BUT is he a guy who’s into the 80’s aesthetic, rages at games, and is a little overly competitive? Probably!
This got me thinking about the idea of taking your own personality and embellishing the bits which make you, YOU. I’ll give you an example. I’m a Zen Buddhist. I’m obsessed with Eastern philosophy and practices of Zen, presence and meditation are a significant part of my life. Therefore, on stream, I take these components and make them the focal point. If you ever watch me on stream, you’ll notice that in moments of absolute chaos and high tensions on screen, I remain almost comically calm and poke fun at the intensity of otherwise high-stress situations. I don’t tilt in moments that might frustrate others and will instead flip situations like these around into thoughts and questions about why we might feel that way. Even when I have engagements with toxic players, you’ll see that rather than engaging them with the reciprocal toxicity they’re looking for, I might say something like “Aw, friend, what happened today? It’s okay, you can tell me about it.” Not sarcastically, but in a genuine way! It’s fun to see if we can take the toxicity out of a teammate, BUT there is one more component to my stream which I would consider most significant. This leads us to our next point.
PASSION/REASON FOR STREAMING - Most people will tell you if you’re in it for the money, get out. I’ve read this sentence a million times. My feeling is that it’s not quite that simple. It’s perfectly okay to approach streaming with the goal of making it your full time job -- That’s exactly what I’m doing! HOWEVER, Consider a person who wants to be a rockstar, but has never written a note of music. Or held a guitar. Or sang outside their shower. They want to be a rockstar for the fame, money, etc. but they’ve got no passion for the art itself. I think we both know it’s very unlikely they’ll get anywhere at all. The same is true of streaming. There’s a point where passion and effort coincide with return. You do it because you love it, but you can’t put everything into it without it becoming your livelihood. You also can’t make it your livelihood without putting everything into it.
Perhaps your passion is the game itself and the will to share it. You want to be a Radiant rank Valorant player, teaming up with Shroud and Summit to play against pros while your fans watch and spam your chat with PogChamps and KEKWs. That’s fantastic and that passion will take you far. There are plenty of passions that can fuel your drive to put in the work when the odds are against you!
When I watched my first Twitch stream, the first thing that struck me was the way that the streamer was able to engage with so many people in chat, while they were simultaneously engaging one another. A more specific point that took my interest was that it was all, for the most part, anonymous. I immediately had the thought that this would be a great platform for people to have a place to get things off their chest. Almost like the next level of jotting frustrations into a diary -- only here, others can see, relate to, and even respond to the things you write in real-time. Even further, what if there were a streamer who, while delivering satisfying one-shot sniper content, could calmly talk over the chaos and offer perspective on the topic for that person and anyone else in chat going through the same sort of difficulties. For me, the passion is the potential to help people who are experiencing anxiety, depression, etc. with the same principals which helped me through these issues while creating a community where my viewers can offer the same for one another, if they choose to. That was the beginning of DrWatts.
UNIQUENESS - This should act as a sort of *bonus point* to the two above points. In a competitive game environment, it should be a given that you are at least decent at your game. It’s unlikely you’d be streaming it otherwise. Even if you’re great at it, it can only play to your advantage to push the aspect of your skill and offer something that few other channels can. While this can mean nearly anything, I’ll share with you the example of what I believe makes my on-screen content unique.
I predominantly stream VALORANT with regular switches to COD Warzone sprinkled between. In Warzone, I solo queue into Trios and use only the Kar98k, regardless of range, with success for the most part. In VALORANT however, it gets a little more elaborate. Essentially, I developed a stream “mini-game” within VALORANT wherein I only use the Marshal scout weapon. Throughout a match, certain things can happen which will force changes to my loadout. Additionally, I’ve added interesting and fun modifiers that chat can activate with channel points to make this “mini-game” more challenging or slightly easier on me. It’s a fun way to keep the gameplay fresh and interesting while keeping chat engaged with the gameplay. You can see the “DrWatts unrated VALORANT rules” in the about section on my channel if you’d like to see this in action. Perhaps it’ll give you some ideas!
OVERLAY - While it isn’t as essential as having the cam feed itself, it is still a critical component in my opinion. Have you ever been on twitch, perhaps looking at a lesser watched game, and decided to click on one of the handful of streamers playing it? Which did you click? I clicked the one with the best looking overlay in that tiny thumbnail box. Why? Because, as a viewer, It says something to me about “They put work into this” - “They care about the quality of their stream” - “They probably know the ropes and are NOT NEW AT THIS” -- even if we are ;). There’s a few ways to approach this hurdle, some more costly than others. You can try to take on making your own overlay (more on this later*), purchase a premium pre-made overlay, or pay someone to custom make one for your channel. While the latter is ideal, I think most of us at the beginning will want to begin with a premium pre-made overlay. For around 30 bucks, you’ll have your stream looking, for the most part, pretty professional.
SCHEDULE AND CONSISTENCY - It is important to have a consistent and identifiable schedule. Your viewers need to know when and where to find you! Try out different schedules as early as possible and find one that works for you. Once you’ve found what works for you and your lifestyle, stick with it as closely as you can. If you want for streaming to become your job, you’ve got to treat it like one! If you’re going to be late or need to change the time of a stream, handle it the same way you would with any other job. Do what you can to let your audience know and try as much as you can to not make a habit of it. Life happens and there isn’t anything we can do about that, but the more consistent you can be, the better!
An important note on this point: Sometimes you need to take a day off and I’d never make a case to prioritize your stream over your mental or physical health. Holding yourself accountable for your schedule is important to your success on Twitch, but nothing is more important than your health, friends.
PLAYING WITH GROUPS - I have mixed feelings on this point. You are the focal point, don’t forget that. It’s great to play with other streamers and friends, but I’d recommend limiting this to a section of your stream, rather than making it an expectation or identifier of your channel. Use it as an enhancement to what you’ve already got to offer, not as a crutch if you aren’t quite feeling confident solo yet. It’s an excellent opportunity to practice engaging your viewers and --if we’re being honest-- talking to yourself! Even when there’s no one to engage with, the lurkers in your chat won’t lurk for long if you’re sitting quietly playing the game. It is absolutely critical that you can stand on your own two feet, so don’t let playing with others inhibit your ability to do so!
BRANDING - This may seem like a point that “doesn’t matter til you’re big.” Remember when I said if you want it to be your job, you’ve got to treat it like a job? Your channel is your business and unless you treat it as such, it will be a failing business. Take that personality you developed and visualize it into a logo. Maybe you know photoshop, or maybe you get a friend to draw it for you. Maybe you make it in MS paint (I hope not). You really just need something that is identifiable as YOU. Once you’ve got it, put it everywhere. Everywhere. Twitch, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, Steam, Discord, Facebook. It will never hurt you to secure your brand on every platform even if you aren’t perpetually posting to each and every one!
If you guys would like to see a follow up post involving the social media marketing stuff I mentioned earlier, this would be another point that I would likely expand on as well.
KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO - This point isn’t to scare you. It’s to encourage you because YOU CAN undoubtedly do this. Further, this is more of a point for those who favor the densely saturated, top played games (Valorant, Warzone, Overwatch, League of Legends, etc.) This is the category that I fall into. You’ll do much more work off-stream than you do on-stream. From social media marketing to a constant influx of content creation, there’s a lot of work to be done. In games like these, you will never see organic growth via Twitch alone. It’s not because you’re not working hard and it’s not because you’re not amazing -- you definitely are. It’s because with only a few viewers, your channel will be buried by 70 pages worth of others trying to do exactly what you’re doing, leaving your only option for discoverability elsewhere -- at least at the beginning. If anyone is interested to see how I’ve approached these aspects of my stream, I’ll gladly do an additional post to cover them (Social media scheduling apps, content curation and editing, etc.)
BUYING FOLLOWERS / FOLLOW FOR FOLLOW / LURK FOR LURK / ETC. - Don’t do this. Just don’t. This is an absolute trap and serves no benefit to your channel. If you meet another streamer along the way and you mutually enjoy each others’ content, that’s awesome (This will happen!), but don’t follow each other simply for the number -- it helps neither of you. There are countless reasons for this being the case and I’ll gladly talk about it with you in a PM or even on stream, but suffice to say there are too many reasons to list why this does not benefit you, nor the people exchanging with you.
MODS - For the obvious reasons, they’re important. You never know when the bots will show up in chat or, worse, when little Timmy is having a bad day and wants to let it out via profanity spam in your chat. Unlucky. Have a close friend or two to help you with this at the start if/when they’re available.
DON’T BE DISCOURAGED - Kudos to you if you’re still reading. I’d definitely wager that you’re committed to this and this point may be moot for you, but still I feel that it’s an important one to address. Developing growth on a streaming platform is hard, that’s for sure. But it’s not impossible and we’re all capable so long as we maintain our commitment to the passions we identified earlier. I have a life experience which taught a particular lesson and still to this day, it’s the most valuable lesson I’ve ever learned. I’d be glad to share that story with anyone who is interested, but it’s applicable to most low-odd gambles and goes something like this:
Every time you get that sensation of “this isn’t working, I want to quit,” so are a 1000 other channels. When those moments happen, YOU are going to be the one to say “No, I’m going to keep going.” Even after a seven hour stream with only 2 viewers. With no willingness to give up, you’ve already differentiated yourself from 50% of channels. THOSE DAYS WITH 3 VIEWERS WILL STILL HAPPEN, I HAVE THOSE DAYS TOO -- Even your most loyal followership will still have a life outside of twitch. Keep that in your mind and don’t allow those discouraging thoughts in. Continue on the same as you would if there were 10, 100, or 1,000 people in chat. One day, friends :)
++ BONUS POINTS - This point is not at all essential, but is more of an ‘above and beyond’ that’ll benefit you along the way. During the course of my Twitch journey thus far, I’ve take it upon myself to learn Adobe Photoshop, Premier Pro and After Effects. I’m by no means a master of any of these programs, but I understand how to use each to a point where I’ve developed my own logo from scratch, made emotes, animated my logo, created a stream commercial and more. As I said, this is by no means essential, but if you should decide to take this point on, It’ll stand to benefit you going forward as it has for me.
Well, friends, we made it. I appreciate you taking the time to read this post and genuinely hope that you found at least a point or two which will help you along your journey through Twitch and beyond. As I said in the beginning, I’m not looking for any kind of return from this post, but feel free to stop by my channel if you’d like to see how I apply all of the points above! I’d be happy to further elaborate on any of the above on stream as well! I have followers that watch regularly who are interested in a lot of the same and enjoy stream discussions.
Let me know in the comments if this helps any of you achieve affiliate status! Thoughts and criticisms are always welcomed as well :)
Best of luck in your Twitch journeys, friends.
Monthly discussion topic - Best passive income ideas for women
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We will use this thread to note down all ideas which are effective in earning a substantial passive income. We will only consider those ideas which are -
- low risk, high reward
- Should earn you money even while you sleep
- Have the ability to expand exponentially
- Should help you reach your wealth goal (I will explain in another post on how to set your wealth goal)
I will list down some of the ideas that I feel are best for this purpose. You all also list down some ideas in the comments below.
- Make an app - It doesn't have to be anything too fancy. Many simple apps are also pretty popular on Apple and Google store. There is a period-tracking app that I use, which is pretty basic, but thousands of people buy it's pro version every day. The same goes for some apps that I tried for staying focused. I ended up uninstalling the ones with too many bells and whistles and paid for a simple one instead. Apps have the potential to go huge and give you enormous returns for a long time. The key is doing your research properly. Checking out other apps. Reading what kind of feedback people are giving it. Making notes of what people are saying in their reviews. What features they would like to see. Remember it is not about inventing something new altogether, rather making some changes to what is currently available. Like there were plenty of messaging apps already available when Snapchat was introduced in the market, yet it became popular because it came with a feature where messages are deleted upon opening which is what many people wanted from their messaging app. People always crave something new. Give it to them and you have your profits.
- Develop a game - Similar to an app, a game also has the potential to bring in tremendous returns. And just like an app, simple games can also become pretty popular. We all know the profits that simple games like "Angry Birds", "Talking Tom" brought in for their makers. You can develop games for iOS, Android, or create indie games as well. Game engines like Unity have made it possible for beginners, having basic coding knowledge, to start making games. Here also you have to do your research and see what people like and don't like. Join gamer forums, Reddit subs, Facebook groups to interact with gamers. Also, use these platforms to promote the new game that you developed and get feedback from users. Keep some money aside to advertise your game on social media, it provides a huge boost.
- Create online tutorials - Online education is seeing enormous growth in recent years. There are multiple ways you can earn money by making online tutorials. Make videos and upload them on free websites like YouTube to earn ad money and from affiliate marketing. Or you can make videos and put them on websites like Udemy to earn money when someone buys your course. The paid model mostly works for courses that are STEM and technology related. Even if you do put your courses on Udemy, you have to provide some free content on websites like YouTube or Facebook, so you can build your audience. Give some free coupons to your Udemy course every month so you can get reviews on them. Remember if your course has no reviews, no one is going to trust it and pay money for it and this is the mistake most people do when they upload their course on Udemy. Courses with a decent amount of reviews are guaranteed to bring good sales. So focus on reviews and not money in the initial stage.
- Upload YouTube videos - Apart from tutorials, there are many other types of videos that you can put on YouTube. Comedy, vlogging, cute pet videos, cooking, make-up, technology, fashion, even how to organize your stuff. One of my favorite channels from which I have learned a lot about organizing stuff in my house - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2GT4HiSvUipWNwcWUM7iJQ. Of course, your videos have to actually provide some entertainment or information for people to watch them. If you are just making videos that are similar to other popular videos, people will have no incentive to watch your videos. But don't go around making videos in genres that no one watches. Try making videos in a popular genre giving them a unique twist. This Mexican grandmother amassed more than a million followers in just one month on her cooking channel by making her dishes in an outdoor kitchen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLhxVgG4MHE
- Create an online blog/website - Blogging has become pretty oversaturated in recent times and doesn't provide very good returns anymore. What I would recommend is providing some free content on your blog or website and then also creating premium content for which users need to pay. Just like YouTube, you can use this medium for affiliate marketing as well.
- Become an Instagram influencer - You might think you need millions of followers on Instagram to start earning money from affiliate marketing or sponsored posts, that's not the truth though. I have seen influencers having around 13 thousand followers making sponsored posts and hosting giveaways. I look for mostly STEM based content which is not overcrowded so maybe that is why even with low followers women are able to earn money in this area. Some genres on Instagram are very oversaturated like Fitness and Travel. I would suggest not venturing in them. Also don't do anything if that requires you to invest tons of money like getting expensive clothes, jewelry, gadgets. Start with a limited budget and do something creative. Make-up, artwork, cooking, home organization, STEM related posts. Choose a niche and stick to it. Post regularly and use as many hashtags as possible. Also, if you are choosing something like STEM, post some interesting content in the description along with the picture. Interact with other Instagram accounts in your niche. That's the best way of pulling the crowd towards your account.
- Make money from your artwork - If you have some hobbies like crocheting or painting, put it up on image-based social media like Instagram and Pinterest. People like watching pretty things on social media. Give them escapism and you can earn money from it. Try combining different things. This artist uses fashion designing with real-world elements like flowers, leaves - https://www.instagram.com/edgar_artis/. Create an audience and not only can you earn money by affiliate marketing and sponsored posts but you can also create your own merchandise by printing your artwork on t-shirts, mugs, etc, and sell it on Etsy or Amazon. Try making some artwork which the rich will like to purchase, so even if you sell very products, you get enormous profits on it. Have some expensive quality items in your shop, some big-ticket items for the huge payout, but make sure to entice smaller wallets with "bread and butter" sales that are the backbone of your profits with frequent sales. Also, don't forget to include items that complement each other. As an example, if you're selling handspun yarn, don't forget to include things like knitting needles, nice needle holders, patterns, etc.
- Create a brand - If you use multiple ideas given above, you can create a brand. You are getting great views on YouTube, your courses are making good money on paid online platforms, you have a decent number of visitors on your website/blog and you also make sponsored posts on Instagram and most likely you have a hit app of your service. Congratulations, you have a brand in your control now. You could be offered millions of dollars by giant corporations in lucrative buyout deals. Whether or not you want to sell your brand is your personal choice. I would suggest selling it off while it's still popular and making huge money off it, while still retaining some stake in it. This is why I don't recommend starting your YouTube channel, Instagram account, a website using your name. If Facebook was named "Mark Zuckerberg" it wouldn't look such an attractive prospect to buyers, would it? Create a brand name and promote that instead.
- Write a book - Once you have established yourself in your field and people are willing to pay money to gain knowledge on your area of expertise, consider writing a book. You can market it on your personal social media handles. Even if you sold out your brand to someone else your name will be popular by now thanks to the brand you created. Of course, if you have some brilliant story in your mind as J.K. Rowling had for "Harry Potter", you can start with writing a book right away. Books are ageless and will keep making money even after your death.
- Monthly allowance and Gifts from Boyfriend/Sugar-Daddy/Husband - If you are open to dating men, find yourself a provider type. Instead of getting traditional gifts from him like clothes, handbags, make him give you money or jewelry or some other stuff which you can sell and get money. The key here is using the money you get from him to start your own business or investing in the above stated passive income sources. Don't stay dependent on him forever giving you money.
- Investing in real estate - Real estate is generally considered a good investment provided you do your research and purchase land in a prime location. The rent money you get from real estate is purely passive and you can always sell it back and earn a profit on it when the market is good. Once you have secured enough money using the above-stated methods, buy some real estate and start getting rent from it.
(Note - I only suggest women above 25 to actually implement these ideas. Younger women please just read and learn for now. Concentrate on your studies and get a job in your preferred field. Once you feel you are ready and have the correct mindset, only then venture out to try the above ideas)
An average Millionaire is said to have at least 7 different sources of passive income. So you should be using all these ideas in conjunction with each other. Let's illustrate this with an example -
Suppose it's cooking you are very good at. You have decided that you want to do something in this field. So ideally first you should get a job related to cooking. You can learn many things in a job. What the customers demand, what they like and don't like. You can also hone your skills there. Learn new recipes, the art of presenting food. Meanwhile, save as much money as you can by cutting down all unnecessary expenses (I will make a separate post on how I achieved this and can now live without a job for at least 3 years while I focus on my business). Now when you have saved enough money and ideally got a partnesugar-daddy/husband to support you financially just in case, quit your job and focus on building your brand. I say quit your job because building a brand is full-time work. Doing it after office hours, you will most likely be tired, not have enough energy or motivation and it will reflect in the quality of your work. Once you have embarked on your journey of building your brand, the first step is to learn as much as you can. Watch YouTube videos of various food channels. Read various recipe blogs. Notice what people like and don't like. Also join various Facebook groups, Instagram accounts, and Reddit subs based on the topic of cooking or food. See what type of content users interact with most, what they are demanding. Make note of everything you learn. Go to Pinterest boards to get ideas of how to present food in a way that is aesthetically pleasing. Inspiration and creativity come from regular learning and observations.
When you feel you have gathered enough information, start being a producer. Start a YouTube channel for your recipes. You can select a niche like vegan recipes, recipes for PCOD. One of my favorite Youtuber posts various types of diets. I have personally tried and benefited from some of them - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCduPI5l8EcksRVi5Sdpa1gw
. Of course, when you start, you will have no views. Don't worry, we will solve that. Keep sharing your videos on various Facebook groups. Post on Instagram using multiple hashtags. Recommend them on Reddit cooking communities that you are active on. Basically promote, promote, and promote some more. Don't lose hope if you do not get the views and subscribers that you would have liked. This is the stage where most people give up. Keep posting quality content. The views will come. Meanwhile start a blog and showcase your recipes there also. Sharing them on social media is mandatory too. Interact with Instagram accounts and Facebook groups in your niche, help users who are asking some questions, they will be more likely to subscribe to your page if you interact and help them. Build your audience on social media. Remember this is a hard thing to do and that is why I say it's a full-time job.
After you build an audience, you can enable ads on YouTube and your blog/website. Start affiliate marketing and make sponsored posts on Instagram. Keep growing bigger and better. Create an app for your service, maybe an interactive game where users learn your recipes while cooking them using Bitmoji avatar. Write a book describing your struggles in the Cooking industry and how you made it big. Maybe you will be called to a talk show or as a judge on some cooking show. Or maybe you get your cooking show. Dream big and don't give up until you achieve your wealth goal. Always remember "you miss 100 of the shots you don't take".
Earn money without a website? The 6 best ways of 2020
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Is it possible to make money online without creating a website? The answer: yes! That's certainly possible. If you know how to do this right, you can earn a lot of money with this! How do you do this? I will explain that exactly in this blog!
Billions are earned annually on the Internet, with or without a website. I do both ways. Making money without a website is not as difficult as you may think and that is also the case with making money with a website.
You need common sense, a little discipline and of course this blog.
It is important if you want to earn money with or without a website that you register yourself at Linkpizza
(registration is free). These are affiliate programs. Are you not yet completely familiar with affiliate marketing? Then read this blog
Okay! You are now familiar with affiliate marketing and have signed up to an affiliate program!
These are the 6 best ways to make money without a website in 2020!
Earn money without a website, but with Facebook
An easy way to make money without a website is with Facebook. Facebook is the largest social network and therefore the best network for making money without a website.
You can set up a Facebook page for free. By setting up a nice Facebook page with catchy texts and popular images, you can create a lot of followers in a relatively short time.
You put valuable information on your page for your followers. This can be in the form of re-posts, nice messages, photos and videos. Your page is being followed more and more.
Followers are your potential buyers. You can promote a product from time to time on your Facebook page. This could be:
At the link you place you tell why you think this product is so cool and why others need this product. You can not place such a link on your page too often. Your followers will notice this. So above all, you have to provide valuable information and subtly promote a product once in a while.
Perhaps an easier way than with a Facebook page is with Facebook groups. There are a lot of Facebook groups. All you have to do is sign up for this and place your affiliate link in this group.
Do this in a subtle and fun way. If you only post your link without any text or explanation, chances are you will be thrown out of the group. Pay attention! Some Facebook groups have in their regulations that you may not post affiliate links. It is best to refer people to your Facebook page in these Facebook groups. Always in a fun, non-questioning way. This works best!
You can approach a specific target group via Facebook advertisements. You choose a nice product to promote at, for example, PayPro
. Then you go through Facebook to search for people who are interested in this. The advantage of this is that you are sure that people who see your message are also interested in this. Facebook has already sorted that out for you.
This is a fast way to make money without a website. It is not a sustainable way. You make money as long as people see your ads and maybe for a while after that, but at some point it stops.
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Many small to medium-sized companies do not have an advertising department. And they outsource this to a third party. They have large amounts for this. Especially if this means that they generate more income from your developed advertisements. You cannot learn how to create quality advertisements within a day. You've probably heard of Facebook ads and Google ads. Maybe even made an ad once. Do you want to earn your living with this, then you are probably taking years to teach yourself.
Earn money without a website, but with Instagram
Billions are earned through Instagram, which is why this is also a highly recommended way if you want to make money without a website.
Make money with your Instagram profile
You can create an Instagram profile for free and very easy. Maybe you already have a popular Instagram profile or want more popular Instagram profiles.
The easiest way to make money with your Instagram
profile is to choose a topic that you know is popular. For example: Puppies, small cats, make-up, clothes, etc.
You can also let your Instagram profile be about yourself, but even then it is important that you address a specific target group.
Step-by-step plan to earn money with your Instagram profile:
- Create an Instagram account.
- Choose a niche / topic that you know will be popular.
- Search for popular content:
- on Intagram and repost this.
- on buzzsumo.com, this is a website with the most popular content from the most important influencers. Post these kinds of messages on your Instagram. I am sure you will get a lot of likes.
- Never forget:
- add location
- "Follow" and "stop following" from other Intagrammers. This tactic increases your number of followers. Do this subtly. If you delete too many Instagrammers in one day, your account will be penalized.
- Respond to your comments, especially in the first half hour after you post.
- Place affiliate links in your bio with a link shortener .
Make money through advertising websites
You can place ads on websites that you know people are coming to because they want to buy something. For example, a marketplace
. You can easily respond to the market on this website. It is a way that is not often used, so that means that there is little competition.
Make money without a website, but with savings programs
An easy way to make money without a website is with EuroClix
. This is a savings program where you can save points and exchange them for vouchers or money.
You earn money by completing surveys, making purchases via EuroClix and making other members. Signing up takes 2 minutes and then you immediately start making money. EuroClix
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deserves a good 2nd place. Also because this program has a friendly mobile app.
Registering with both programs works best. You always have a survey in which you can participate. And therefore more security to make money. Update and tip
: earn money with online assignments via Clickworker
. You sign up, then you fill in your preferences. and you will receive highly paid assignments almost immediately
The complete startup/side-project launch checklist - from product conceptualization to launch, to ongoing marketing efforts.
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Hey guys! So my co-founder and I launched several projects/businesses over the past 2 years (incl. our marketing agency, local tour agency, and a bunch of other stuff). We usually go through the exact same process for every project launch, so we decided to turn it into a checklist, both for ourselves & the internet people on Reddit.
You can check out the complete checklist here
, and here's a Reddit-format-friendly post:
Step #1 - Research Phase
Before you start planning your launch, you need to figure out your overall product and marketing strategy. Here’s what you need to think about:
- Create a list of competitors in your niche. Make a spreadsheet that includes:
- Competitor Name
- Pricing Options
- Key Features
- Define your product & business. Decide on the following:
- What’s your business model?
- What’s your pricing model?
- How many pricing tiers do you offer?
- Do you offer a free trial?
- Is your product freemium?
- Which key features are you going to focus on for launch?
- What’s your differentiator? How are you going to beat the existing products on the market?
- Spy on your competitors and figure out which marketing channels are getting them the best results.
- Content Marketing. Do they publish blog posts on a regular basis? Do they promote their content on social media? Do they get a lot of Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn shares?
- SEO. Do they have good rankings on Google with their blog posts? Do their landing pages rank on product search terms? You can check this by running their website through SEMrush or Ahrefs.
- Search Ads. Are they running ads on Google Search? You can check this by running their site through SEMrush.
- Facebook Ads. Are they running ads on Facebook? You can check this through Facebook Ad Library.
- Affiliate Marketing. Check their website footer to see if they have an affiliate page up. You can also do this through a simple search query: “site:[competitor website] affiliate program”
- Referral Marketing. You can usually find this in the footer. Check what kind of referral terms your competitors offer.
- Now, use everything you’ve learned so far and create a pitch deck if you’re planning on raising money, or a business plan if you’re not.
Step #2 - Slap Together a Website
Time to get things rolling. The next step is to create a website & lay the foundation for your marketing.
- Pick a domain name. Pro-tip, all the good “.com”s are taken. Go for something more creative like a .io, .xyz, or other TLD. We recommend using NameSilo for buying the actual domains, they don’t do price-gouging, unlike most providers.
- Buy hosting. We recommend using SiteGround - they have 99.99% server uptime, and their customer support is amazing.
- Pick an email marketing provider. It doesn’t particularly matter which one. We usually recommend MailChimp since it’s free for up to 2,000 subscribers.
- Create relevant social profiles. The key here is relevant. If you’re a B2B enterprise software company, you really don’t need an Instagram profile where you post selfies. Usually, most startups go for Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter.
- Create a landing page for your product. You’ll need to create a landing page that sells your product. In 99% of cases, we recommend using WordPress. It’s going to allow you to be a LOT leaner than having your tech team code your entire website from scratch.
- Create other essential web pages. E.g. about us, contact us, pricing page.
- Set up a payment processor. We’d recommend Stripe (the best option on the market) or PayPal (if you really have to).
- Set up Analytics. You can pick between Google Analytics, MixPanel, or other alternatives.
- Set up a business email. We recommend using G Suite. Dealing with your hosting provider’s email service will be a pain when scaling.
- Launch a blog. If you’re planning on using content marketing or SEO for your marketing (which, in 2020, most product companies do), you’ll need a blog.
Step #3 - Do Some Pre-Launch Marketing
If you have the extra time and resources, you can start marketing your product way before you’ve even launched. Usually, this involves:
- Add an email capture on your landing page
- Incentivize early adopters. Offer them something extra than just a “we’re going to email you once we launch!”
- Drive traffic. Usually, the best channels to use for pre-launch marketing are content marketing, SEO, and PR. More on each channel under “Ongoing Marketing” below.
Step #4 - Get Some Initial Traction
Once you have an MVP, you want to validate 2 things: that your product works, and that it can drive conversions (and hence, revenue). Here’s how to do it lean:
- If you did pre-launch marketing, launch an email to anyone that pre-signed for your product.
- Cold call your first 50 customers. The easiest way to get your first customers is to do some cold calling. After all, if you can’t sell your product on a one-on-one call, how will you sell it to strangers on the internet via text?
- Find leads on social media. Use Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter to find leads on social media and pitch them with a direct message.
- Run search ads. If you have a flexible budget, you can run search ads on direct intent keywords. E.g. if your product is a resume builder, you advertise on the keyword “resume builder.”
Step #5 - Prep For Launch
Every startup gets one “launch” in its lifetime. Here’s how to make sure you get it right:
- Create a Press Kit and put it up on your website. Here’s an example of how to do that. This is going to be helpful for journalists who want to write about your website.
- Gather a list of journalists that wrote about your competition. You’re going to email them during launch and ask for a feature. Use tools like Hunter.io or Clearbit Connect to find the journalist’s email addresses.
- Create a list of all your acquaintances that use ProductHunt (PH). You’ll want to ping them and ask for support once you launch on PH (more on this in the next step).
- Create a list of all your friends and acquaintances who might have connections to your target audience. You’ll reach out to them during launch.
Step #6 - LAUNCH!
Time to hit that big, shiny red button and LAUNCH!
- Reach out to all the journalists you listed in the last step and pitch your product. The PoV of the pitch should be “hey, you wrote about [competitor x]. We have a similar product, but here’s how ours stands out…” To learn more about this approach, check out this article.
- Launch on ProductHunt. Here’s the best guide on how to do that.
- Reach out to all your friends and acquaintances we listed out in the last step, and ask for a share of your product landing page. For the best results, you should also give them the EXACT text they should use when sharing the page.
Step #7 - Ongoing Marketing
BAM, you launched. If you did everything right, you should already have some initial traction. However, you’re far from done. In fact, you’re just getting started! From here on out, you should be doing ongoing marketing to drive growth for your startup. You can use the following marketing channels…
- Content Marketing
- Google Ads
- Affiliate Marketing
- Referral Marketing
We're going to deep-dive on how to get each channel to work for you below.
SEO generally involves 3 things:
- Creating high-quality, long-form articles that are meant to rank for a given keyword
- Optimizing your website to Google's best practices
- Getting high-quality links pointed towards your website
Here's how to do all that:
- Create a list of your competitors that have good rankings on Google
- Do some keyword research. Come up with keywords that you want to rank for with your blog content (e.g. topics surrounding your product), as well as your landing pages (e.g. direct search terms people use to find your product). You can use the following tools for this:
- Google Keyword Planner
- Optimize all your web pages for SEO. You can use one of the following tools:
- Publish SEO-optimized content on the reg. Here’s how to do that…
- Create landing pages for each of your use-case.
- Do link-building on the reg. Here’s the complete list of all the possible tactics you can use.
Content marketing = creating content aimed towards your end-user's pain-points or problems, and promoting it to make sure that they get to see it.
E.g. if you're a resume builder SaaS, you'd create content on how to make the perfect resume.
Here's how to do content marketing right:
- Learn some basics of content marketing. The general process, though, involves creating and promoting content to drive traffic and leads to your product.
- Come up with (potentially viral) content ideas. You can use the following tactics for that:
- Find viral content in your niche with BuzzSumo
- Reverse-engineer the best content ever published on Hacker News
- Borrow content ideas from some of the best posts on Reddit
- Create a list of channels you can use to promote your content. Some of our favorites include:
- Facebook groups. Whatever your niche might be, there’s probably a ton of Facebook groups around it. If you’re in the SaaS, entrepreneurship, or marketing niche, check out our list of 100+ best groups.
- Reddit. Find the most popular communities for your niche, and repost your content there. Keep in mind, though, that for most subreddits, you can't just submit your links directly.
- Niche communities. E.g. Growth Hackers, Indie Hackers, some forums, etc.
- On a weekly basis, create 1-2 new, high-quality content pieces.
- For each content piece you publish, look for people who wrote about similar topics, and reach out to them asking for a share.
- Read some case studies
Does your product already have an audience looking for it?
Then Google Ads might be the right channel for you.
The general process here is identifying keywords your idea users use to look for your product and running ads on them.
First off, learn some basics on Google Ads. Here are some of the top resources:
Then, here’s how to do Google Ads:
- Find the keywords you want to run ads on. You can use Google Keyword Planner for this. We recommend finding keywords around your product’s main use-case and running ads on those.
- Decide on your budget. This is a lot easier than you’d think - check what’s the average CPC for your keywords, decide on the # of clicks you want to buy in order to see if you’re getting a positive ROI or not and calculate the budget accordingly. Alternatively, you can just use our PPC calculator.
- Create a landing page for each (significantly different) keyword. E.g. if you’re advertising on “workflow software,” your landing page should have “workflow software” as a keyword sprinkled all around (and NOT “business process management software” or any other synonym).
- Create 3+ ad copies for each keyword you’ll target.
- Pick the right location, device type, and demographics options for your ad account. E.g. if you’re selling a very expensive product, you’d probably want to avoid countries with lower income.
- Use granular ad groups. I.e. each ad set should have 1 keyword. While this is harder to manage, it gives you better control and flexibility over your ads.
- Use Cascading Bids. I.e. bid lower for broad match keywords, and higher for exact match keywords.
- Add negative keywords. That’s keywords you DON’T want your ads to show up on. When you’re using broad match keywords, Google automatically shows your ads to associated keywords (which often-times, can be irrelevant).
- Use as many ad extensions as you can.
- Use optimized ad rotation. Meaning, Google will automatically figure out which of your ad copies work best and run those.
- On an ongoing basis, keep track of your account and make adjustments when needed (try new keywords, add negative keywords, experiment w/ different ad copies, etc.)
- Add conversion goals to keep track of your conversions.
Since there are a dozen+ good advertising platforms out there, this is going to be a bit generic. The general idea behind PPC ads is setting up your ad account (targeting + ad creatives) in such a way that you're generating a positive ROI.
- Create your ad campaign. Decide on the budget and campaign goal. The latter will tell Facebook how to optimize your campaigns. E.g. should it focus on traffic that gets you sign-ups? Conversions? Traffic?
- Figure out your ad targeting. Mind you, though, this doesn’t mean that you should create a customer persona and replicate it using Facebook targeting. Create several target groups w/ a handful of interests each. Test which of them performs the best.
- For each target group create several ad creative variations (i.e. ad image and copy). The goal here is to see which ad works best and double down.
Looking to learn more about PPC advertising? Here are some of the best guides we’ve read:
Affiliate Marketing means starting a program that rewards companies who drive registrations and sales to your website. Here's how to set it up:
- Decide on your affiliate program structure. Meaning, you need to figure out:
- What’s the % you’re going to offer to your affiliate
- Are you going to offer a different % based on the # of signups an affiliate drives?
- Is the affiliate bonus going to be a one-time thing, or recurring?
- Decide on the technical solution. Here are some options:
- Create your own affiliate software. Obviously, this is very time-consuming and expensive, so we wouldn’t recommend.
- Using WordPress? You can try Affiliate WP
- If you’re not, any of the following options are nice: TapAffiliate, Post Affiliate Pro.
- Create a landing page for the affiliate program. Include a link to it on your site header or footer
- Reach out to potential affiliate marketing partners. For example:
- Affiliate blogs (i.e. blogs that review the best products in your niche)
Referral marketing can significantly boost your user acquisition with ZERO added spend. Here's how you can do that:
- Decide on your referral marketing structure. What does the referrer and the referee get? Some options here are:
- Setup a referral marketing program. You can use one of the following tools for that:
- Referral Candy
- Invite Box
- Create a landing page for the referral program and include it in your header or footer
- Reach out to your existing users and let them know about your referral program. You can do this by sending out a mass email to your subscribers and users.
To learn more about referral marketing, check out:
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